cycled with just water and live sand for two weeks by itself then added rocks 30 lbs just to start doesnt look like much hahaneed another 30 to look decent cycled with two raw shrimpfor about 3 weeks with the rocks ammonia only went to to 1.0 and nitrites rto 1.0 but then dropped i believed cause i used cured lr from lfs nitrates less than 20 so im pretty happy for a start