Um..Bzzzt! But you get a cookie any way gotz...
Wrong example though.
The
lionhead and the
fantail that made orandas are
both mutations of
Carassius auratus....they ARE the same species no matter the look..just as poodles and beagles are both the same branch of canine and a fancy tail guppy is still a guppy.
All these golds are the same species
Comets Sarasa & plain
Common golds (aka feeder fish)
Fancies:
Fantails Shubunkin Ryukin Moor Ranchu
Oranda LionHead Telescope Celestial
Pearlscale Pom-pom Bubble Eye
and even crucian carp
(though it is Carassius carassius and is more like a wolf to a dog).
When you talk koi
then you veer away. More like a dog compared to a maned wolf or foxes. (and there is a catfish based "koi" too, but they are never as lovely as true koi and turn ugly when older)
(heh if I know anything fishy at all it is labyrinths and the golds. I can even 5 step koi)
And
ideally animals shouldn't be sold so carelessly as retail does it. ideally sense should overcome greed for a fast result and keeping a breed pure should work on ALL the qualities..not what ever look the AKC decideds is a winner that season. But idealism si seen very rarely when money becomes involved. Just sticking with line breeding after the breed qualities are set is far more harmful than helpful. That is where the nasty rep for dobies and Sheperds came from. ..untrustworthy inbred animals with poor qualities set in for generations. Line breeding once it is a breed becomes all esthetic..and that is a wicked path full of inbreeding and extreme features.
Outcrosses are always needed for genetic viability and vitality. Other wise it would still be legal and accepted to marry your own sister or daughter..... :? Ask any of the many (how odd) people taking biology or even majoring in it that frequent these boards. Constant inbreeding is BAD.
And hibrids are still different from mutation. Mutations are usually a genetic response to contaminants, enviroment, and inbreeding for that matter. They occur on their own and in nature if it was a good restructure..it becomes a new sub specie. Hybrids are not taking anything in account usually but what WE want from them. If the animals are not known to mix in the wild..it is waaay unnatural for us to mix them.
And the way the parrot in particular is done it is going to pollute the gene pool of the two fish that made it. Which is why most fishy fans oppose their existence. the fish it came from were just fine and lovely . They needed no help. What's next? Keyhole rams? Or something far more harmful like using a rare species that is barely bred and waste those genes on hibrids? We are talking RETAIL here..not average Joe. And that is who is supported by purchasing these animals. I hope they never sell enough to decide to try a new hibrid.
