Will neon tetra eat baby shrimp?

[TheDude]

Recently purchased a 20 gallon long, plan to make it heavily planted. Wanted to add only different types of snails and Fire Red cherry shrimp to breed. I was wondering if adding a decent sized school of neon tetra would be ok, I dont want babies to get eaten.

Any advice is appreciated!

 

[Fishdude3233]

Recently purchased a 20 gallon long, plan to make it heavily planted. Wanted to add only different types of snails and Fire Red cherry shrimp to breed. I was wondering if adding a decent sized school of neon tetra would be ok, I dont want babies to get eaten.

Any advice is appreciated!

they will pick off the babies one by one. specie only tank for shrimp works best.

 

[IllusionX]

The only thing that will not eat your baby shrimps is probably an otocinclus

 

[TheDude]

Ok thanks! What about a hillstream loach?

 

[rostick555]

Even bristle nose plecos will eat shrimp so hillstream will also more than likely swallow them up.

 

[sinibotia]

Ok thanks! What about a hillstream loach?

Hillstream loaches would definitely eat baby shrimp and even if they didn't they would be horribly suited to the tank you're setting up. They need cooler, very fast moving water- think rocky stream. Definitely not the kind of setup you want for a heavily planted tank.

 

[TheDude]

Gotcha, appreciate the input everyone! I suppose I'll keep it as strictly an invertabrate tank.

 

[Coursair]

Once you have 100+ Shrimp you can add Celestial Pearl Danios as they are harmless to adults and larger juveniles. Maybe a Scarlet Badis as well.

Otos are Shrimp safe.

Dwarf Corys are safe with adult Shrimp. C habrosus or C pygmaeus are awesome.
http://youtu.be/JrLx1mKDObY


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[IllusionX]

A lot of fish can be put with adult shrimps. But your shrimp population won't grow much.
I've seen a few baby shrimps coming out in our community tank with neon tetras, cardinals, Angels, koi Angels and Rams...

 

[Mebbid]

You people are crazy about your shrimp....

I kept a 29g community tank with GBR, harlequin rasbora, aphysemion australe, and 2 plecos. I started with 10 shrimp and after about 3 months when I broke the tank down I had around 40. In my 55g the population EXPLODED and I had hundreds (I gave up counting but they were literally everywhere) along with angels, rainbows, and a dwarf gourami. The angels and GBRs actively stalked and hunted the shrimp.

Give the shrimp enough places to hide and you will have no issues keeping neocaridina heteropoda (RCS) shrimp. If you want the Caradina heteropoda such as the Crystal red shrimp then that's when I would worry about a species only tank.

Pic related, my gourami and shrimp sharing food.

Currently, I have the same shrimp in with a betta and 10 neon tetras and again, the population has grown alot. I started with approximately 5 or so when I started the tank and now there's at least 30.

 

[ScotJudd]

I agree with Mebbid, give your shrimps enough cover, preferably mosses where the fish can't get them, and they will multiply well. My tank has a lot of fish and loads of shrimp. If however you are purchasing expensive shrimp and want to start a colony then initial isolation from fish is probably a good idea.


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[shrimpybuisness]

Sorry but all that info on Hillstream Loaches are wrong lol...have you guys even kept them before? I have a school of 4 and they do perfectly in my 20g long with my red Rilis and OEBT they don't even touch any shrimp... the only con is they get in the way of the food lol. And for filtration I just have a 40g air pump with two sponge filters....

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[Fishdude3233]

Sorry but all that info on Hillstream Loaches are wrong lol...have you guys even kept them before? I have a school of 4 and they do perfectly in my 20g long with my red Rilis and OEBT they don't even touch any shrimp... the only con is they get in the way of the food lol. And for filtration I just have a 40g air pump with two sponge filters....

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Hillstream loaches need cooler water then neocarndia shrimp like, and way more circulation.


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[Mebbid]

Sorry but all that info on Hillstream Loaches are wrong lol...have you guys even kept them before? I have a school of 4 and they do perfectly in my 20g long with my red Rilis and OEBT they don't even touch any shrimp... the only con is they get in the way of the food lol. And for filtration I just have a 40g air pump with two sponge filters....

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I cant comment as to whether or not the hillstream loaches will eat shrimp or not... but they definitely arent suited to a tropical planted tank.

They absolutely do need fast moving cool water. Just because you have some that are surviving doesnt mean they belong in that setup. Just look at how goldfish are kept.

 

[shrimpybuisness]

I keep them in OEBT parameters (68 degrees) and u have plenty of flow in the tank...they have been very active and grown big for about 3 months now.

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[Fishdude3233]

68 is really, really cold for neocarndia. And by lots of flow I mean, more flow then what the aquarist can produce is necessary for hilstreams. They are a species that is better off In the wild


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[sinibotia]

Sorry but all that info on Hillstream Loaches are wrong lol...have you guys even kept them before? I have a school of 4 and they do perfectly in my 20g long with my red Rilis and OEBT they don't even touch any shrimp... the only con is they get in the way of the food lol. And for filtration I just have a 40g air pump with two sponge filters....

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Yes, I have had hillstream and brookstream loach species tanks/biotopes before. No, I'm not wrong, thank you very much.

One set of fish not eating shrimp does not mean all of them won't, otherwise everyone could keep trios of male bettas because that's been done before. They do generally need cooler, faster water.

Loaches happen to be my favorite group of aquarium fish (just look at my user name), a group that I have read extensively about and have kept many members of, so I have a very strong knowledge of their general care requirements. Could you please be little kinder when expressing your opinion and not insult my 9 years of experience and research with these fish?

Here's information about hillstream loaches from someone I would consider a true expert on them.
Hillstream Loaches - The Specialists at Life In The Fast Lane — Loaches Online

 

[Anders247]

Neocaridina shrimp can actually tolerate lower temps. When in higher temps, they'll breed faster and will shorten their lifespan. They breed slower in cooler water.

 

[sinibotia]

Actually, if your tank is 68 degrees and has a 40 gallon pump and lots of plants then yes they're doing alright because you have cool, highly oxygenated water- which is what I said they needed. But that's not typical for a planted tank or most fish tanks, really.

 

[cherokeeluvr]

If I were you I would let the shrimp colony establish before adding any fish. Also provide LOTS of hiding! Cholla wood, Java moss, heavy planting, ect. After you have lots of adult shrimp and plants and the shrimp are breeding introduce some fish. Neons will likely eat some of the baby shrimp. I keep neons and a betta with my rcs. My betta has slowly eaten 45 shrimp! Bye bye money! I caught him in the act... I wouldn't get anything too much bigger than a neon. And maybe feed the neons twice a day with a good amount of food to keep them full so they won't eat as many shrimp! And just start out with a few neons and see how they act. Mine don't even look at the shrimp. Another cool invert to put with fish would be CPOs(Mexican dwarf crayfish). I just got 4 of them. They are too small to mess with shrimp, and too big for fish to eat. I really really love mine! They are beautiful too! Good luck with your tank!


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