New and Old worlds

[CichlidLady0312]

Just curious. Would Malawi cichlids be old or new?

 

[TheCommunityCichlid]

They are old worlds along with all other African cichlids.

 

[Oscar98]

Old worlds are africans and the madagascan cichlids. New worlds are central, southern, and north amercian cichlids

 

[Mogurako]

I don't know why everyone is using this outdated term to describe groups if cichlids all of a sudden but its a ineffective way to do so. Old and New world encompasses large groups of cichlids that are not compatible and shouldn't be lumped together. Here is how they should be broken down IMO

-African Rift Valley cichlids:
Cichlids from either Lake Malawi or Lake Tanganyika.

-Victoria Basin:
Cichlids from Lake Victoria and surround lakes.

-West African River:
Cichlids and other fish from rivers and small stream in or around Cameroon.

-Madagascar:
This one should be self explanatory.

- South American Cichlids

-Central American Cichlids

Old worlds are africans and the madagascan cichlids. New worlds are central, southern, and north amercian cichlids

There are no members of the Cichlidae family that are endemic to North America ( US and Canada). There are allot of cichlids from Mexico however but those fall into the Central American category.

 

[HUKIT]

I don't know why everyone is using this outdated term to describe groups if cichlids all of a sudden but its a ineffective way to do so. Old and New world encompasses large groups of cichlids that are not compatible and shouldn't be lumped together. Here is how they should be broken down IMO

-African Rift Valley cichlids:
Cichlids from either Lake Malawi or Lake Tanganyika.

-Victoria Basin:
Cichlids from Lake Victoria and surround lakes.

-West African River:
Cichlids and other fish from rivers and small stream in or around Cameroon.

-Madagascar:
This one should be self explanatory.

- South American Cichlids

-Central American Cichlids



There are no members of the Cichlidae family that are endemic to North America ( US and Canada). There are allot of cichlids from Mexico however but those fall into the Central American category.

What about Neotropical then?

 

[Mogurako]

What about Neotropical then?

You're kill'en me smalls! We might as well bust out the Mesoamerican cichlids then and really confuse people!

 

[HUKIT]

You're kill'en me smalls! We might as well bust out the Mesoamerican cichlids then and really confuse people!

I'm just busting your balls, it's just easier to say new or old then narrow it down from there, no disrespect to anyone here but this forums members are generally newer aquarists and drilling down into each area of Cichlidae.

 

[Mogurako]

I'm just busting your balls, it's just easier to say new or old then narrow it down from there, no disrespect to anyone here but this forums members are generally newer aquarists and drilling down into each area of Cichlidae.

It just seems like such a dated way to group up the cichlids.

 

[TheCommunityCichlid]

It just seems like such a dated way to group up the cichlids.

It's is but it's easier to get across where exactly the group of cichlids are from to someone who hasn't seen anything but petco and petsmart fish stocks.

 

[CichlidLady0312]

Or people like me who just joined this site and is learning the lingo Lol

 

[Mogurako]

It's is but it's easier to get across where exactly the group of cichlids are from to someone who hasn't seen anything but petco and petsmart fish stocks.

What's so hard about:

African cichlids
South American cichlids
Central American Cichlids

 

[TheCommunityCichlid]

Idk that's how I always used it but I guess new and old worlds are terms used now