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(New To Fishkeeping)New Biocube 29g
Hi! I apologize for my multiple past posts on this topic, but for Christmas, I finally got my very first tank! First of all, it is a Coralife Biocube 29 gallon which will be saltwater. This is my first tank, and if I can't maintain the saltwater setup, it will become fresh. Anyway, no offense to the freshies, but personally, if I am going to take part in the Fishkeeping hobby, I'm going to pay an extra couple of bucks(metaphorically. I am aware saltwater aquariums cost a lot more to maintain) and do it right. Today, I decided to do some research on aquarium maintaining, I realized that there is so much I don't know! The sumps, skimmers, filters, it's mind boggling! My first request is a review of saltwater reef maintenance, primarily for the Coralife 29G BioCube. Also, for this tank, would I need a heater? I was told that I would not, because the lights are VERY strong, but I would like some feedback.
Next, stocking fish! My current plan is possibly a yellow banded possum wrasse, two Ocellaris clowns, a hippo tang, and (possibly) a sort of Pygmy angelfish? I'm pretty sure that's way too overstocked, but the angel is give-or-take. I am pretty sure that everything is reef safe and compatible, but I was planning on doing most of my life stock research over the cycling period.
Next, inverts/cleaning crew! I have not done much research on this topic yet, but need a cleanup crew. I could use something that eats waste, parasites, and algae. (I know that nothing eats all of this, but a creature for each.) Then, probably a sand shifter, unless this interferes with my live rock and sand. And lastly, some decorative inverts, and inverts that do other cleaning, of which I have not mentioned above. I would prefer nothing that wrecks havoc. Also, blood (or fire, if you will) shrimp are absolutely adorable! If you have experience with them, please tell me a bit about them? Thanks in advance!
And, of course, corals. I have done a bit of research on this, but I do not have a flat out plan for them.
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12-26-2013, 07:17 PM
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Welcome to the sw world! First off you will not need a sump or skimmer for the biocube. It comes with a back chamber that is your filtration. Secondly, stocking wise please don't put a hippo tang in there. They get huge and swim a lot. The clowns, wrasse and Pygmy cherub angel should be fine though.
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12-27-2013, 10:57 AM
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Welcome I the Saltwater World
I think your stock is fine but you would have to sell the tang when it reaches 5" . I think you are on the right track for everything else.
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12-27-2013, 11:19 AM
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The list is fine except for the tang,. there is no tang that can be safely put into a bicube. A blue hippo grows over a foot long and needs at least 6 feet to swim. I would strongly urge you not to even put a tiny one in your tank, they still do nothing but swim and need more than a foot and half or so. Like mentioned above the rest of the list looks good though.
I have a biocube and never ever would put a tang no matter what size into it. I keep mostly small happy types of fish in mine and really like the simplicity of the biocubes, perfect for the new person getting into saltwater/
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12-27-2013, 12:10 PM
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Thanks for all the help! On the hippo tang, I read that they could live well in a 30 gallon. Is this true?
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12-27-2013, 12:11 PM
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Ah, I guess not. Instead of that tang, could I possibly do a flame angel, or any sort of hippo look-alike?
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12-27-2013, 12:18 PM
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Ah, I guess not. Instead of that tang, could I possibly do a flame angel, or any sort of hippo look-alike?
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A flame would get aggressive very quickly in that size tank. They wouldn't have enough swimming room. How about a watchman goby or a nice blenny. Your tank is quite small thus limiting options.
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12-27-2013, 12:41 PM
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I have a fully stocked, maybe even overstocked 29g biocube. I have two clown gobies, two blennies, 2 clown fish and a mandarin. I also have a boatload of live rock taking up alot of space.
I would go with 2 clowns, a blenny and a goby. I would also add some shrimp and crabs in too. is would leave a good amount of space for corals too when your ready.
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12-27-2013, 12:48 PM
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A flame would get aggressive very quickly in that size tank. They wouldn't have enough swimming room. How about a watchman goby or a nice blenny. Your tank is quite small thus limiting options.
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Ah, thanks. I'm not too sure about what I'll get. My initial stocking plan thus far is either a bit of a crowded look with multiple small fish (not that many, but a few), or a few small guys and one larger fish that's a bit of an eye-catcher. My bio load might be too tough, though. I do like Bangai Cardinals and Pajama Cardinals, as a matter of fact. Maybe I could have, as an eye-catcher, a whitetail Pygmy, a coral beauty, or cherub angelfish? They'd probably be too aggressive, but I mean, they're minimum size is 30 gallons. Also, the coral beauty is reef safe, so that's a bonus! I love those humbug dascyllus, but they're quite aggressive. Or, I could have a flamented flasher wrasse,but I'm not sure if it will harm the other breed I want. Whoops, mind flop! I suddenly forgot the name.
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12-27-2013, 12:53 PM
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I have a fully stocked, maybe even overstocked 29g biocube. I have two clown gobies, two blennies, 2 clown fish and a mandarin. I also have a boatload of live rock taking up alot of space.
I would go with 2 clowns, a blenny and a goby. I would also add some shrimp and crabs in too. is would leave a good amount of space for corals too when your ready. 
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Yeah, I was planning on a reef. I would love a mandarin some day, they're gorgeous fish!  Are they really as difficult to keep as I've heard?
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12-27-2013, 12:55 PM
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Ah, thanks. I'm not too sure about what I'll get. My initial stocking plan thus far is either a bit of a crowded look with multiple small fish (not that many, but a few), or a few small guys and one larger fish that's a bit of an eye-catcher. My bio load might be too tough, though. I do like Bangai Cardinals and Pajama Cardinals, as a matter of fact. Maybe I could have, as an eye-catcher, a whitetail Pygmy, a coral beauty, or cherub angelfish? They'd probably be too aggressive, but I mean, they're minimum size is 30 gallons. Also, the coral beauty is reef safe, so that's a bonus! I love those humbug dascyllus, but they're quite aggressive. Or, I could have a flamented flasher wrasse,but I'm not sure if it will harm the other breed I want. Whoops, mind flop! I suddenly forgot the name.
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Liveaquaria states 70 gallon minimum for a coral beauty and I agree. They are in the same genus with flames so similar temperaments and size. The biocube just Isn't long enough and no angel is 100% reef safe. The flasher also needs more horizontal space. Liveaquaria puts them at a 55 gallon minimum. Look into small fish that is really what your tank can have. Use liveaquaria to check fish minimum tank sizes
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12-27-2013, 01:08 PM
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Liveaquaria states 70 gallon minimum for a coral beauty and I agree. They are in the same genus with flames so similar temperaments and size. The biocube just Isn't long enough and no angel is 100% reef safe. The flasher also needs more horizontal space. Liveaquaria puts them at a 55 gallon minimum. Look into small fish that is really what your tank can have. Use liveaquaria to check fish minimum tank sizes
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Mm. Alright. Are there any small, flashy fish that are a bit bigger and reef safe that you can recommend?
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12-27-2013, 01:09 PM
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Mandarins are indeed a very very difficult fish. I wouldnt think of even trying one unless you are ready for alot of work and expense.
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12-27-2013, 01:09 PM
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Mm. Alright. Are there any small, flashy fish that are a bit bigger and reef safe that you can recommend?
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How about a Midas blenny? They are beautiful and get a little larger.
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12-27-2013, 01:15 PM
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How about a Midas blenny? They are beautiful and get a little larger.
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Ooh, I like those! Just googled 'em. They are very nice looking. Have you had any experience with them?
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12-27-2013, 01:17 PM
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Mandarins are indeed a very very difficult fish. I wouldnt think of even trying one unless you are ready for alot of work and expense.
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Ah. It must pay off in the end, though. 
Any way, have you ever heard of a puffer being reef safe? This just popped up on my mind.
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12-27-2013, 01:27 PM
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Long nose Hawkfish are very nice looking, but would eat all of my small fish and shrimp, so that's a no.
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12-27-2013, 07:39 PM
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How about a Midas blenny? They are beautiful and get a little larger.
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Hi! I am very bored right now. Are blue tangs and hippo tangs the same fish?
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12-28-2013, 12:12 AM
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Pretty much unless your thinking of a blue caribbean. BUT there is not a tang in existence that I know of that can go in a 29g tank. Thats just not realistic.
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12-28-2013, 10:57 AM
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Oh. I didn't realize that a "hippo tang" was just another name for a blue tang. Silly me  Well, this just changed a lot. Okay. My stocking, fish wise, is almost taken care of. Now, I'm mainly focusing on tank maintenance. Carey, for your Biocube, how did you set it up/maintain it? Silly question, with many answers. I apologize for that.
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