sharkthevandal
Aquarium Advice Apprentice
i have a friend who has been trying to find an arrow head puffer. we havn't had much luck. i was wondering if any one had one and if so how and where they got it.
any one out there have an arrow head puffer?
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cdawson
Aquarium Advice Freak
From what I know there are a couple people that have them, but I think they're not available very often.
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go here, this is where you wanna ask your puffer questions
http://puffer.proboards2.com
madasafish
Aquarium Advice Addict
They're seldom in LFSs... I saw some at a store in NJ (specialist), but they were Pignose puffers, also Tetraodon suvatii, I think a different morph of the same species.
I know that you can but these on www.aquariumfish.net I almost got one there, myself.
Careful! These are particularly aggressive puffers, and don't make good tankmates!
I know that you can but these on www.aquariumfish.net I almost got one there, myself.
Careful! These are particularly aggressive puffers, and don't make good tankmates!
mgkaelen
Aquarium Advice Freak
i agree with jon,
they keep one at my LFS. it is pretty awesome, but i hear they are a nightmare to keep. first off, they look like ROCKS. i remember seeing the marking of a pignose puffer on the tank and it took me about 30 seconds to FIND it in the tank.. i realized it was just sitting there in the middle . i hear watching them eat is the only "entertaining" part of them, as they're EXTREMELY violent.... i'm pretty sure they need to be the only thing in their tank as a result. IMO, you could find a much prettier puffer with a nicer personality!
they keep one at my LFS. it is pretty awesome, but i hear they are a nightmare to keep. first off, they look like ROCKS. i remember seeing the marking of a pignose puffer on the tank and it took me about 30 seconds to FIND it in the tank.. i realized it was just sitting there in the middle . i hear watching them eat is the only "entertaining" part of them, as they're EXTREMELY violent.... i'm pretty sure they need to be the only thing in their tank as a result. IMO, you could find a much prettier puffer with a nicer personality!
sharkthevandal
Aquarium Advice Apprentice
yea we already have a small fahaka puffer that should be real good looking when it gets it's color in. but we where looking at the arrow head because it was so aggressive. (my room mates kinda have a thing for aggressive fish that eat other fish). and since we have plenty of extra tanks lying around we figured why not. but none of our lfs can find them any where.
sharkthevandal
Aquarium Advice Apprentice
oh and thanks for the tip on aquariumfish.net but we have checked there and they are out of stock now, and don't know when they will get more.
Raimeiken
Aquarium Advice Activist
look for one at aquariumstuffers.com or you can just ask your lfs to order on for you. How big is the tank anyway? if it's really huge, you can put a Mbu puffer in there 
they grow up to 28" freakin huge eh?
they grow up to 28" freakin huge eh?cdawson
Aquarium Advice Freak
I don't think people just have 300g tanks lying around =)
Which is what mbu's need.
Which is what mbu's need.
Raimeiken
Aquarium Advice Activist
hey, he might have one
Pufferpunk
Aquarium Advice FINatic
Mbus are really best housed on 1000g.
cdawson
Aquarium Advice Freak
true enough, puffers require alot of space and a 28" puffer is going to need ALOT space. Although I don't know if 1000 gallons is what you really need. 1000 gallons is ALOT of space.
Pufferpunk
Aquarium Advice FINatic
Here is a story (you've probably read this before, CD) by a pufferkeeper friend of mine, that has kept several mbus in the 40 years he has been keeping puffers:
"A long sad and story which I really do not enjoy relating, but they are wonderful fish...
Mine stepped up from 40 -> 75 in only a few months, then to 180 at between 2 & 3 years, and it should have been sooner. Eventually that was too small. He did permanent damage to his caudal fin that never straightened out. The first damage was done in the 75, later got worse in the 180. He really could not turn comfortably even in the large tank. It should probably have required 3-4’H x 4’D x 8'W to keep from cramping him (or on the order of 1000 gallons for the display only), and larger would have been better. He was my favorite (and my wife’s) by a wide margin of all the fish I’ve kept, but is probably not suitable for hobbyists. They are just too big. His system was the 180 with him, a 120 veggie filter, two 40-gallon veggie filters, a 20-gallon Daphnia filter, a 20-long filter-feeding shrimp filter after the daphnia tank, plus a twin-tower W/D, two large Eheim external canisters and multiple internal Eheims, and 2- or 3- 50 gallon partials per week (alternating weeks). He was stunted, only about 18-20” standard, but with the huge caudal fins these fish have, he would have been ~26” full length with his caudal flat – which it could not do with the vertical curl at the rear – he always seemed to turn the same direction. Very friendly, very excited to see us, very much a high-personality pet. I doubt that I will ever keep another, as I cannot house one properly. I don’t track my tank expenses, but I don’t think his feeding was that bad, considering that he required about half the tank room just to support him – his electric bill was likely pretty high though – all those lights on his veggie filters. I did breed some albino bristlenose cats in the veggie filters then, to offset part of his food supply (trade goods). Unless you have the space, the time, and the price of luxury car to put into a fish, they are just not suited to private keeping. If I could and was willing to do it over, I’d devote the entire tank room to the one fish. It would house only the single tank, Monaco style, custom built in place, with customed filters and automated changes. That was what I had originally planed for the space, but reality intervened, along with college for the kids."
Robert
"A long sad and story which I really do not enjoy relating, but they are wonderful fish...
Mine stepped up from 40 -> 75 in only a few months, then to 180 at between 2 & 3 years, and it should have been sooner. Eventually that was too small. He did permanent damage to his caudal fin that never straightened out. The first damage was done in the 75, later got worse in the 180. He really could not turn comfortably even in the large tank. It should probably have required 3-4’H x 4’D x 8'W to keep from cramping him (or on the order of 1000 gallons for the display only), and larger would have been better. He was my favorite (and my wife’s) by a wide margin of all the fish I’ve kept, but is probably not suitable for hobbyists. They are just too big. His system was the 180 with him, a 120 veggie filter, two 40-gallon veggie filters, a 20-gallon Daphnia filter, a 20-long filter-feeding shrimp filter after the daphnia tank, plus a twin-tower W/D, two large Eheim external canisters and multiple internal Eheims, and 2- or 3- 50 gallon partials per week (alternating weeks). He was stunted, only about 18-20” standard, but with the huge caudal fins these fish have, he would have been ~26” full length with his caudal flat – which it could not do with the vertical curl at the rear – he always seemed to turn the same direction. Very friendly, very excited to see us, very much a high-personality pet. I doubt that I will ever keep another, as I cannot house one properly. I don’t track my tank expenses, but I don’t think his feeding was that bad, considering that he required about half the tank room just to support him – his electric bill was likely pretty high though – all those lights on his veggie filters. I did breed some albino bristlenose cats in the veggie filters then, to offset part of his food supply (trade goods). Unless you have the space, the time, and the price of luxury car to put into a fish, they are just not suited to private keeping. If I could and was willing to do it over, I’d devote the entire tank room to the one fish. It would house only the single tank, Monaco style, custom built in place, with customed filters and automated changes. That was what I had originally planed for the space, but reality intervened, along with college for the kids."
Robert
madasafish
Aquarium Advice Addict
Right on. Mbus are really not suited for aquariums... Check out these pictures: http://www.fishbase.org/Photos/ThumbnailsSummary.cfm?ID=10103
I've seen bigger specimens online, but I've forgotten those links.
Good luck with the arrowheads--though I'm a little disappointed to hear that your roommates just want the fish to see it kill other fish. That's really the wrong sort of attitude for an aquarist IMHO.
I've seen bigger specimens online, but I've forgotten those links.
Good luck with the arrowheads--though I'm a little disappointed to hear that your roommates just want the fish to see it kill other fish. That's really the wrong sort of attitude for an aquarist IMHO.
Pufferpunk
Aquarium Advice FINatic
It is not a good idea to feed fish feeders anyway. Feeders are unhealthy & undernourished, not good nutrition for a puffer, or any other fish, for that matter.
sharkthevandal
Aquarium Advice Apprentice
yea unfortunatly the bigest one i have lying around is only 30 gal.
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