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08-01-2013, 09:26 PM
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Awww. It sounds like you have the saltwater bug.
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08-01-2013, 09:40 PM
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Haha I agree! It's really tiny!
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08-01-2013, 09:58 PM
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Awww. It sounds like you have the saltwater bug. 
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I definitely do!
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08-01-2013, 10:02 PM
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I definitely do!
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Lol. You'll enjoy it more and more. Congrats on the cute little guy!
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08-01-2013, 10:14 PM
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Lol. You'll enjoy it more and more. Congrats on the cute little guy!
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Thank you! Now I just hope he doesn't grow too fast!
I've been eying this yellow watchmen at the LFS and I was super tempted... He's been there the last few times I've gone... My wife really wanted a clown so I figured I'd make her happy first and get my watchmen later on after I upgrade.
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08-01-2013, 10:15 PM
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Thank you! Now I just hope he doesn't grow too fast!
I've been eying this yellow watchmen at the LFS and I was super tempted... He's been there the last few times I've gone... My wife really wanted a clown so I figured I'd make her happy first and get my watchmen later on after I upgrade. 
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Ahhh. You have good taste.  I love yellow watchmans! My clown hasn't seemed to grow much, but then again, he's in a much larger tank. So I haven't been keeping up with that. Lol.
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08-01-2013, 10:28 PM
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ADA 90-P reef maybe??
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08-01-2013, 10:41 PM
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ADA 90-P reef maybe?? 
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I have a spare 12 long. I might repair that and use it...
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08-01-2013, 10:53 PM
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Ahhh. You have good taste.  I love yellow watchmans! My clown hasn't seemed to grow much, but then again, he's in a much larger tank. So I haven't been keeping up with that. Lol.
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Hahaha, yeah, I'm sure I'll notice when he starts to look cramped...
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08-01-2013, 11:14 PM
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Oh yeah! Brian was just telling me that today. That would make an amazing reef. You would really need some flow in that thing. Would you have to run a sump?
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08-02-2013, 12:04 AM
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Maybe a large canister would add enough filtration and extra water volume for a 12 gallon reef?
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08-02-2013, 12:11 AM
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The only thing EI canisters is they tend to build up nitrates, I've read. Sorry for hijacking, Bill!
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08-02-2013, 12:11 AM
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Maybe a large canister would add enough filtration and extra water volume for a 12 gallon reef? 
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I'm thinking if I keep it lightly stocked, relying on only biological filtration and water changes, like I am here in the 5 gallon.
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08-02-2013, 12:14 AM
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The only thing EI canisters is they tend to build up nitrates, I've read. Sorry for hijacking, Bill!
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That's usually argued because of lack of maintenance. The whole reef canister thing is widely argued but I'm not nearly experienced enough to have a real opinion. I think with a reef, canisters have to be cracked open once a week... No thanks... Haha
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08-02-2013, 12:15 AM
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The only thing EI canisters is they tend to build up nitrates, I've read. Sorry for hijacking, Bill!
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I hate canister filters because they always make a mess. So I concur. I was just thinking water volume! Lol.
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I'm thinking if I keep it lightly stocked, relying on only biological filtration and water changes, like I am here in the 5 gallon.
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I'm sure you'd be fine. I had a 10 gallon reef with only a HOB and it seemed fine. I didn't have it long before I upgraded though, so there wasn't much time for me to have a problem. But I can say that I had a hydor nano circulation pump and it was great. Now back to the 5 gallon. Lol. Sorry. Got carried away.
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08-02-2013, 12:15 AM
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Haha that would not be fun at all!
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08-02-2013, 12:19 AM
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I hate canister filters because they always make a mess. So I concur. I was just thinking water volume! Lol.
I'm sure you'd be fine. I had a 10 gallon reef with only a HOB and it seemed fine. I didn't have it long before I upgraded though, so there wasn't much time for me to have a problem. But I can say that I had a hydor nano circulation pump and it was great. Now back to the 5 gallon. Lol. Sorry. Got carried away.
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Haha no problem, I've been researching a lot about running nanos filterless, sumpless, skimmerless... It seems there's actually a lot of people doing it or only running a hob for chemical and mechanical purposes... So I dunno... I think it would just require more manual cleaning such as a lot of vacuuming the rocks and sand of excess waste to prevent nitrate/phosphate build up...
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08-02-2013, 12:20 AM
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Oh yeah! Brian was just telling me that today. That would make an amazing reef. You would really need some flow in that thing. Would you have to run a sump?
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Check this out... http://youtu.be/rfRa5_HbMC4
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08-02-2013, 12:30 AM
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Haha no problem, I've been researching a lot about running nanos filterless, sumpless, skimmerless... It seems there's actually a lot of people doing it or only running a hob for chemical and mechanical purposes... So I dunno... I think it would just require more manual cleaning such as a lot of vacuuming the rocks and sand of excess waste to prevent nitrate/phosphate build up...
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It's all trial and error. Haha. Can't wait to see what you end up doing.
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Oh my gosh. I'm in love with that tank. It's incredible.
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08-02-2013, 12:33 AM
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It's all trial and error. Haha. Can't wait to see what you end up doing.
Oh my gosh. I'm in love with that tank. It's incredible.
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I know fort is running his 12 long with only an mp10... I don't think he has any fish though... I'll have to shot him a pm and see what he thinks.
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