Will i have a cycle. Going from a 20g to a 135g

[Jonnypro]

I will use the old sand to seed and be using all my live rock from that tank. I have cured dry rock that I am adding along with new sand. My live stock is 2 damsels 1 maroon clown 1 Picasso trigger 1 coral banded shrimp 3 hermit crabs 2 snails and a few small local crabs my son caught. My lighting For the New tank will be 120w full spectrum dimmable. I have a Sump sump as well that will be a refugium.

 

[Jonnypro]

Bump. Anyone?

 

[Stlrockguy]

I'm not sure but I would. You are adding a lot more rock that isnt cured and your BB has to build up. Someone will correct me if I'm wrong

 

[Stlrockguy]

Missed the part about your dry rock being cured.

 

[Jonnypro]

I'm not sure but I would. You are adding a lot more rock that isnt cured and your BB has to build up. Someone will correct me if I'm wrong

I am going to be using the bb in a bottle and all my live rock that is dry has been cured.

 

[Stlrockguy]

Hopefully someone will jump in. I'm about to set up a 150 and I'm getting a deal on130# of Fiji live rock from someone getting out of the hobby. I plan on cycling mine for a couple weeks at least. Never can be to careful in this hobby

 

[Masoniac]

If the new sand you are using is live sand you'll see a cycle. If you are going to add the fish make sure you keep up on water changes to keep ammonia and nitrates down.

 

[Mebbid]

If you transfer all the live rock from your old tank the same time you transfer the fish there MIGHT be a mini cycle but with the sheer volume of the tank I doubt it will register, especially if you are using a skimmer. Keep in mind that there is plenty of BB on the rock you already have to handle the bio load of your fish. As long as you give things a few weeks to settle out before adding new fish then everything should be just fine.

 

[Animal-Chin]

I'd guess with an upgrade that big you'll see some cycle. 4 fish in a 120 is a pretty small bioload though and your rock from the 20g should have some bacteria on it already so the cycle should be small If I had to guess. Can you set up the 120 with all the rock and leave the fish with the sand in the 20 for a couple of weeks?

 

[Jonnypro]

I'd guess with an upgrade that big you'll see some cycle. 4 fish in a 120 is a pretty small bioload though and your rock from the 20g should have some bacteria on it already so the cycle should be small If I had to guess. Can you set up the 120 with all the rock and leave the fish with the sand in the 20 for a couple of weeks?

I could probably do that. The thing I have learned in this hobby -especially saltwater- is patients. If you don't have that then you will be putting more time on the job. I do not have 150lbs of rock yet. I only have about 75. And I packed out the 20g with a little more then half of that rock. I am not using live sand. I am using sand from home depot that is safe for marine. I just have to wash the hell out of it. And I have a bubble Mag 6 skimmer.

 

[ivan_dalmatia]

Live sand is bought "wet", any dry sand will be alive in a short time (your silica too)! Even your top of the line reef sand is dead if bought dry.
But a 120watt light wont be enough for a 120 gallon, you will need at least 360W for a tank that big, unless you don't plan on having corals or anemones.
The local crabs??? Be careful

 

[Masoniac]

The 120 watt dimmable led if that's what it is they have will be enough. They'll need multiple units.

 

[ivan_dalmatia]

The 120 watt dimmable led if that's what it is they have will be enough. They'll need multiple units.

Did you misspell your first sentence? I don't get it

 

[Masoniac]

Sorry I'm at work and was in a hurry. If the fixture they have is the 120w dimmable led, it will suppose corals. They would just need multiple fixtures.

 

[ivan_dalmatia]

Sorry I'm at work and was in a hurry. If the fixture they have is the 120w dimmable led, it will suppose corals. They would just need multiple fixtures.

Yes, something like 3 of them=360watts
Even with 2 units he will have lots of dark corners? That if the tank is 72" long, if its 48" he's good with 2, 240watts

 

[Masoniac]

I have one over a 20Long and still have dark corners. 3 is the minimum I would run on a 135G

 

[ivan_dalmatia]

I have one over a 20Long and still have dark corners. 3 is the minimum I would run on a 135G

I agree totally, I have 4 on a 150, 6' long. I'd love another one so I could set them up from back to front instead of length wise

 

[Jonnypro]

I have 2 at the moment. They will be delivered this Monday. Here is a 6' long tank with 2 on them and it is fine. I am planning on getting a 3rd but 2 is good for now.
I am going to have the corals more so in the middle. I am waiting at least a year before I add any. Mabe just nems

 

[ivan_dalmatia]

I have 2 at the moment. They will be delivered this Monday. Here is a 6' long tank with 2 on them and it is fine. I am planning on getting a 3rd but 2 is good for now.
I am going to have the corals more so in the middle. I am waiting at least a year before I add any. Mabe just nems

Where did you get that from? The LEDs are way to high up?

 

[ivan_dalmatia]

Maybe that high on a frag tank that maybe 12" deep max