Platy fry LAYING DOWN

[ocminpin]

Some of you have seen my threads on "Trixie" my female platy that died this last week...

First I want to say I have a very healthy spunky fry who has grown to 1/4" and is in my 20g tank with Molly juvies and two adult platies... He or she is GREAT!

I have 6 other of Trixie's fry who are growing at a minuscule rate... They have been in a heated and filtered 10g by themselves and are still very tiny... About 3 of them are semi active swimming around the tank and always come to eat immediately upon feeding.
The other 3 lay on the bottom virtually unmoving until I move something by them.

It's a barebottom tank with about a dozen 1.5" round rocks for them, a couple fake plants and sponge over intake tube on filter...
I change 25% of the water every other day and suck up anything left behind on the bottom...

Their mother Trixie died this week mysteriously. She gave birth on Jan 1st and Jan 31st... After last birthing she went into hiding, quit eating and became emaciated over that time... Her last week was spent lying on her side doing nothing but breathing at various rates... I wound up euthanizing her.
These few fry are acting the same way... I just moved them to a 1g container with a plant and heater while I decide what to do... Should the 3 listless ones be culled?

Here are pics...



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[Starka]

Aww not again
I hope these guys will make it.

 

[ocminpin]

Aww not again
I hope these guys will make it.

Yea... They sure don't look 8 wks old, do they??!! They're the size of newborn Molly fry.
I don't want them to suffer ...

Oh and I just noticed two of the weaker ones have pointy tails...

 

[ocminpin]

Here's a comparison...
This is the healthy one in my 20g... He's so active it took me 15 shots to get a clear pic!

She/ He was born Jan 1st ... 12 wks old.


Just now:
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Size comparison to adult female.
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[ocminpin]

Do you think it would be better to get a breeder box and put them in it or just release them in my 20g? Or cull the 3 weak ones and put stronger ones in breeder box/release in 20g?

 

[Starka]

Ya they are rather small, they look just like her when she was havin trouble too. I wonder what it could be?

 

[ocminpin]

Ya they are rather small, they look just like her when she was havin trouble too. I wonder what it could be?

Poor genes?

 

[HeatherW]

sorry about your little guys - they don't look good at all. I think I would just say they are not good stock. I don't think you want to share whatever they could possibly have with the other guys. you could leave them by themselves for a little longer, but after this long I don't think it looks promising. and if they did pull through I don't think you would really be doing them any favors. just think - if you were doing survival of the fittest in there they would already be gone. there is a reason for that - the strong ones are the ones you want to make more of... not the weak one. I think i would put them out of their suffering... just a thought.

now the healthy guy looks great! so cute!!

 

[Starka]

sorry about your little guys - they don't look good at all. I think I would just say they are not good stock. I don't think you want to share whatever they could possibly have with the other guys. you could leave them by themselves for a little longer, but after this long I don't think it looks promising. and if they did pull through I don't think you would really be doing them any favors. just think - if you were doing survival of the fittest in there they would already be gone. there is a reason for that - the strong ones are the ones you want to make more of... not the weak one. I think i would put them out of their suffering... just a thought.

now the healthy guy looks great! so cute!!

Ya I'll agree with that

 

[ocminpin]

Okay, thanks guys.. :-/

 

[MABJ]

Some of you have seen my threads on "Trixie" my female platy that died this last week...

First I want to say I have a very healthy spunky fry who has grown to 1/4" and is in my 20g tank with Molly juvies and two adult platies... He or she is GREAT!

I have 6 other of Trixie's fry who are growing at a minuscule rate... They have been in a heated and filtered 10g by themselves and are still very tiny... About 3 of them are semi active swimming around the tank and always come to eat immediately upon feeding.
The other 3 lay on the bottom virtually unmoving until I move something by them.

It's a barebottom tank with about a dozen 1.5" round rocks for them, a couple fake plants and sponge over intake tube on filter...
I change 25% of the water every other day and suck up anything left behind on the bottom...

Their mother Trixie died this week mysteriously. She gave birth on Jan 1st and Jan 31st... After last birthing she went into hiding, quit eating and became emaciated over that time... Her last week was spent lying on her side doing nothing but breathing at various rates... I wound up euthanizing her.
These few fry are acting the same way... I just moved them to a 1g container with a plant and heater while I decide what to do... Should the 3 listless ones be culled?

Here are pics...

I'm no expert on live bearers but the one doesn't look good. I know they like plants, and can gain some nutrients from them. Do you check your parameters daily?

 

[ocminpin]

I'm no expert on live bearers but the one doesn't look good. I know they like plants, and can gain some nutrients from them. Do you check your parameters daily?

They have been a steady 7.4, 0, 0, 10
API Master Liquid

 

[MABJ]

Wow they look good, as others said, bad stock... Inbreeding causes this a lot. Better luck with the next batch :|

 

[ocminpin]

Wow they look good, as others said, bad stock... Inbreeding causes this a lot. Better luck with the next batch :|

Will be different mother because these babies mom died a week ago... Although her replacement came from same store... We'll see!