I need quick help before I leave for the day!!

[natedogg569]

So I bought two Angelfish from the Petsmart on the Westside. Both of them are dead but I don't have a receipt...can I still return them and have them look up past purchases under a phone number? and can I return them to the east side Petsmart?

 

[hellaasian]

Should be able to but theyre gona need a sample of ur water too

 

[GuppieStudent]

Unfortunately no. Not without a receipt. I am sorry about your angels though. I am in college for marine biology. Part of my breeding program is going to consist of breeding flame angels if doable. If i am successful. I will keep you in mind and we can work out a deal together. Just pm me so i can keep in touch and when it begins i will let you know. From there we can work something out. Thank you and again I am truly sorry about your fish.

 

[natedogg569]

Unfortunately no. Not without a receipt. I am sorry about your angels though. I am in college for marine biology. Part of my breeding program is going to consist of breeding flame angels if doable. If i am successful. I will keep you in mind and we can work out a deal together. Just pm me so i can keep in touch and when it begins i will let you know. From there we can work something out. Thank you and again I am truly sorry about your fish.

They were freshwater angels but Im not going to buy them from petsmart again. Just going to try and see if I can get new ones or a refund

 

[GuppieStudent]

Well if you do ever want to try flames let me know. Also since freshwaters are some of the easiest to care for im thinking maybe perhaps the fish you got were sick prior to your purchase. What was the temp of your water and the ph level?!

 

[Rivercats]

Sorry for your loss. Something you might want to consider before getting more angels is getting and API master test kit. Is your aquarium a new set up and cycled? What are you amnonia, nitrite, and nitrate levels? Ph? How did you acclimate them when adding to your tank. And how small were they. Many times I've seen fish stores, including chains like Pet Smart selling dime size bodied angels. While angels are actually pretty hardy fish they need good water quality and are not the best fish for a new tank. Your readings need to be at 0 and Ph would be best closer to 7.0. Now angels can be kept at higher Ph but anything over 7.4 isn't good. They prefer a lower Ph and soft water. Also, very small angels do better with 2 or 3 very small meals a day until they they hit about quartar sized body. Then they can go down to one. Doing this will provide good early growth and actually allows them to grow quite quickly. Find out your water parameters before getting more if possible. By the way I've been keeping angels since the 80's. I have 10 right now, and they are my favorite fish.

 

[GuppieStudent]

Sorry for your loss. Something you might want to consider before getting more angels is getting and API master test kit. Is your aquarium a new set up and cycled? What are you amnonia, nitrite, and nitrate levels? Ph? How did you acclimate them when adding to your tank. And how small were they. Many times I've seen fish stores, including chains like Pet Smart selling dime size bodied angels. While angels are actually pretty hardy fish they need good water quality and are not the best fish for a new tank. Your readings need to be at 0 and Ph would be best closer to 7.0. Now angels can be kept at higher Ph but anything over 7.4 isn't good. They prefer a lower Ph and soft water. Also, very small angels do better with 2 or 3 very small meals a day until they they hit about quartar sized body. Then they can go down to one. Doing this will provide good early growth and actually allows them to grow quite quickly. Find out your water parameters before getting more if possible. By the way I've been keeping angels since the 80's. I have 10 right now, and they are my favorite fish.

Absolutely great advice. If while in my class i need some further assistance and advice i will come talk to you myself. Do you have any flames. If not, then(if we can get some in the classroom) when i start my breeding program i will let you know how it goes if interested.

 

[Rivercats]

GuppieStudent: I had reef tanks from the 90's till about 07. A health problem made me have to get out of the hobby. I loved my reefs but just too much work. When I first started in them wet/dry filters were about all that was out there and I had one of the first hang on the back bio filters (almost like a mine sump without a refugium). Things for marine tanks are so much better. I actually did have flame angels and loved them. You have taken on quite a project there! Hope you suceed, the marine hobby needs many more sources to obtain tank bred fish so they can stop collecting. That is actually true for both fresh and marine fish.

 

[GuppieStudent]

Absolutely and examples such as flames are harvested from the wild for pet purposes and are never fully happy. If i can captively breed them and have full captive flames it could make a major change and breakthrough in the aquatic pets world. Hell the aquatic research world as well. As well as as decrease the capturing of wild fish which puts the oceans in danger.

 

[Beehpee]

Ok I've been reading pretty much all the the threads/posts on here for the last couple of months ever since I got my first tank, being a complete and utter newbie to fish keeping I would not presume to offer advice to anyone but am simply here to learn from you people who have obviously been keeping fish for a lot longer than the couple of months I have, when I read some of the posts on here I think to myself, well I know the answer to that and on a couple of occasions I have tentatively given an answer, this has been given with a note saying I'm no expert but for what it's worth here's my two penneth!, I may be speaking completely out of turn here but what the hell it's a public forum so I'm gonna say what I think, so guppie student you seem to be very quick to offer advice and quote all sorts of facts and figures but then say you want to take it further when you have learnt more yourself, how can you be offering this advice when you have already said you are new to fish keeping and are here to learn, one minute your saying your here to learn and the next you are giving advice as though your a marine freshwater expert, maybe it's just me and I'm just tired, but I have to say I'm begining to find I avoid your posts and replies as I find them if not ill informed almost condescending in the manner in which you write them, maybe it's just me but I am a guy who says it like I find it and I love reading posts from people who absolutely from the outset know what they are talking about, to name just a couple who come to mind, convict, momma of four, jetta, samster, I could go on and and on with people who in the short tIme I've been using is forum I've come to respect, so is it just me who thinks that guppie student needs to learn a little more before being so quick to offer advice or at the very least set out his/her credentials for offering such advice?

BP

 

[GuppieStudent]

Ok for one that was a little bit rude. Two yes im new to freshwater fish. Three the things i do comment are either basic or things that i have studied on exstensively due to school. Four its not the first time i have worked with FRESHWATER. I have worked with turtles before. For three years now to be exact. So knowing about possible diseases and how one thing can look like something but be something else is something i do. Five i have worked with brackish fish a bit more difficult than freshwater and its in own way more difficult than saltwater. Six if you read and pay attention i have stated that i will give advice(as the name of this website clearly states) but will take it too. Seven I would hope if you did know an answer to ones question or AT LEAST had an idea as to how to possibly help someone that you would do it. Eight the thanks that i have personally recieved from the person who started this thread, it is very disrespectful for you to suddenly pop on out of nowhere and say the things that you did. Just because someone is new at something does not mean a person hasnt studied or researched it. Just because someone asks for advice and as well gives it does not mean theres something weird going on. So please next time before you do say something read more from that person and look up the things yourself that the target person is saying. Anybody can learn the things that i have. Thank you and goodbye. If you feel you can apologize fir the rudeness i would appreciate it.

 

[natedogg569]

May I ask what advice that GuppieStudent gave on this thread? I see no where on here in which he gave any advice to me.

 

[GuppieStudent]

Offerring help present or future counts. Besides i meant to say after re-reading the advice and suggestions on other threads as well. Besides i answered your question about the petsmart and offered to help you out with a deal obce i do my breeding program due to your interest in angelfish. As far as advice goes reccomending buying from a breeder rather than capturing from the wild(which is where a huge portion of pet store fish come from) IS ADVICE. So i do wish others would look deeper into what one is saying other than what is written down on a thread i didnt realize i had to go into depth as to what im saying. Sorry. I will keep that in mind for next time. As well i was the first to tell you that they must have had a sickness priot to your purchase and to ask what your water temp and ph was. So yes i did try to help. Scroll back up and look again. Asking questions to try to help is helping.

 

[natedogg569]

Offerring help present or future counts. Besides i meant to say after re-reading the advice and suggestions on other threads as well. Besides i answered your question about the petsmart and offered to help you out with a deal obce i do my breeding program due to your interest in angelfish. As far as advice goes reccomending buying from a breeder rather than capturing from the wild(which is where a huge portion of pet store fish come from) IS ADVICE. So i do wish others would look deeper into what one is saying other than what is written down on a thread i didnt realize i had to go into depth as to what im saying. Sorry. I will keep that in mind for next time.

You did answer my question but now I understand what he is saying. He is saying that you shouldn't give advice if you also need to receive advice, which in general is dumb because no matter who you are, you will always need some help when it comes to a subject that you may be good at.

 

[GuppieStudent]

You are right about one thing. First though i added to my last statement from where you saw it end. Now then yes to your statement....HOWEVER even the wisest of anybody with any subject learn something new everyday about there area of expertise. Now im not saying im some expert but as i said those who are still are learning today. Nobody ever stops learning. If one does then they stopped trying to learn more and/or just dont care. But if you do have the answers or knowledge to give in order to help someone why not do so. Thats my point and thats what im doing. Im giving what i do know but taking in what i dont know.

 

[friscuba]

GuppieStudent, flame angels were successfully bred in commercial quantities in Kona nearly a decade ago. The big trick is in keeping the costs down to make the fish competitively priced, I think the company that bred them gave up on the project largely because of that. I think the main troubles have been raising a food source to provide nutrition to the juveniles through metamorphasis. If you haven't checked it out yet, do some research on Kona Blue Water Farms and find out the lead aquaculturist's name, he might be of help to you. I think others in Hawaii have successfully bred them, or are currently working on it as well.

 

[GuppieStudent]

GuppieStudent, flame angels were successfully bred in commercial quantities in Kona nearly a decade ago. The big trick is in keeping the costs down to make the fish competitively priced, I think the company that bred them gave up on the project largely because of that. I think the main troubles have been raising a food source to provide nutrition to the juveniles through metamorphasis. If you haven't checked it out yet, do some research on Kona Blue Water Farms and find out the lead aquaculturist's name, he might be of help to you. I think others in Hawaii have successfully bred them, or are currently working on it as well.

Oh my god thank you so much. Tonight i am definately going to be working on finding out that information. Kona Blue Water Farms. Got it. Thanks.

 

[melosu58]

Just so we know, everyone has some knowledge of fishkeeping. It may be alot or it may not. Everyone has the ability to post their opinion and experience. You do not have to be an expert to post here. As a member here when I post a question I want as many people that can to post their experience and then it`s up to me to sort out what I`m going to use. We in no way impair anyones right to post their opinion. And as I said that`s ranges from the expert to the newbie.

 

[ocminpin]

Should be able to but theyre gona need a sample of ur water too

My petsmarts don't require water sample

 

[GuppieStudent]

Just so we know, everyone has some knowledge of fishkeeping. It may be alot or it may not. Everyone has the ability to post their opinion and experience. You do not have to be an expert to post here. As a member here when I post a question I want as many people that can to post their experience and then it`s up to me to sort out what I`m going to use. We in no way impair anyones right to post their opinion. And as I said that`s ranges from the expert to the newbie.

Thank YOU for understanding