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They should be swimming or at least moving in their own. Do they at least dart from one spit to the other?
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They were all swimming together for 3 days in a little school like 100+ of them. Now like 10 are still swimming around & the rest scoot around on the bottom of the tank. They do dart around from time to time but the swimming is sporadic, I saw some even swimming in circles. I'm thinking swim bladder problems, but I couldn't imagine doing anything differently! I didn't do anything wrong idk why this happened!
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Hmm that's odd. My apistogramma cacatuoides fry will lay on the bottom and dart around, but if they were swimming and now are not something went wrong.
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the only thing I can think is that they are the fry of petco rams. next time I attempt to breed rams I'm gonna make sure they're good quality.
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You got good rams at petco?!
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It took me months to get a pair to live from petco, I swear I had been through about 20+ rams all dying within a 2-3 days of me having them. I kept returning them and getting more. I knew my water was perfect & the fish just sucked ! none of the lfs by me were getting rams at the time. So I finally ended up with a pair of gold rams that lived a whole week. The female started flashing on everything in the tank she was literally bouncing all over the place.
then finally I got a bottle of quick cure, and a bottle of vitachem and treated the tank non stop. I dosed all their food with vitachem.
Now, I haven't used quick cure in a month or 2, but I still drop the vitachem in the tank & the rams are doing amazingly. I call them gold rams on roids lol, they literally eat their food every day like savages who never saw food before.
I thought they'd be sterile considering where they came from, but to my surprise I've hatched 2 batches of eggs from them. This second hatch much better than the first... until this new problem of them all developing swim bladder issues.
I changed like 1/2 an inch of water out of their 2.5 gallon ! I changed it with water from my 29 gallon with the exact same parameters & a splash of prime just to be safe.
then finally I got a bottle of quick cure, and a bottle of vitachem and treated the tank non stop. I dosed all their food with vitachem.
Now, I haven't used quick cure in a month or 2, but I still drop the vitachem in the tank & the rams are doing amazingly. I call them gold rams on roids lol, they literally eat their food every day like savages who never saw food before.
I thought they'd be sterile considering where they came from, but to my surprise I've hatched 2 batches of eggs from them. This second hatch much better than the first... until this new problem of them all developing swim bladder issues.
I changed like 1/2 an inch of water out of their 2.5 gallon ! I changed it with water from my 29 gallon with the exact same parameters & a splash of prime just to be safe.
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I'm surprised you even found gold rams there. Petco doesn't even keep blue rams by me. Doesn't surprise me that they are good breeders though.
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Yea they get em at 2 of the petcos by me. 6.49 each. Also, most of the ones on the bottom of the tank have passed away... BUT I did notice something really odd with one of the ones on the bottom that is still alive. THE STOMACH IS 100% ON THE TOP OF ITS BODY!!!
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I fed baby brine today and all the survivors stomachs are orange so it's very easy to see that this ones stomach is where it's back should be.
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In that case I would with euthanize those with the major deformities
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TCC, I've got 6 or 7 left, they're doing well, really full bellies, all eating bbs.
How long do I feed bbs? And then what do u recommend feeding them after bbs?
How long do I feed bbs? And then what do u recommend feeding them after bbs?
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I would switch them over to new life spectrum grow as soon as you think they will take it
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Just thought I'd update everyone, I've got 6 fry still living. The other 140+ all developed swim bladder issues and died after being shocked by my 2 yr old niece and nephew slapping the tank :-(
The 6 remaining fry are doing great! They're 3 weeks old today & about tripled in size since being born.
The 6 remaining fry are doing great! They're 3 weeks old today & about tripled in size since being born.
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That's good to hear.
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Something really exciting just happened and I thought I'd update the post.
So out of the 6 remaining, only 2 made it to adulthood. They are 5.5 months old now and almost have their full adult coloration.
I just walked in my room to go to bed. Went to feed em a little flake when I looked closely and saw eggs.
Upon closer observation I've got a male and a female.
they are both fanning and defending the eggs together. So I'm assuming they've paired up. We'll see if the eggs are fertile in the morning.
I didn't plan on the only 2 surviving fry to be a male female pair. I planned on crossing 1 with an electric blue and the other with a german.
But this is totally awesome!
I bred their parents to get them and now they're breeding !
So out of the 6 remaining, only 2 made it to adulthood. They are 5.5 months old now and almost have their full adult coloration.
I just walked in my room to go to bed. Went to feed em a little flake when I looked closely and saw eggs.
Upon closer observation I've got a male and a female.
they are both fanning and defending the eggs together. So I'm assuming they've paired up. We'll see if the eggs are fertile in the morning.
I didn't plan on the only 2 surviving fry to be a male female pair. I planned on crossing 1 with an electric blue and the other with a german.
But this is totally awesome!
I bred their parents to get them and now they're breeding !
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