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Are you saying my tank specifically or just in general? They are a bit small and light but they look worse in the pictures.


Was referring to brooksters comment but in general to anyone who grows it.
Under a single FugeRay I know that it will be orange to orangish red and not crimson/scarlet like BrianNano is getting. Hoping for better luck with the addition of the planted+.
Yeah, I think high light is the key but the ferts and CO2 must be in ample supply as well.
 
Thats strange that you guys have that. My ARs old leaves are yellowing a bit and getting a bit if algae but new ones are looking good. I assumed it was just transport. Sounds almost like phosphate deficiency. I'm almost doubling up on phosphateImageUploadedByAquarium Advice1406588097.165564.jpg now do that helps a bit i guess.
 
OS swore by 4ppm phosphates.. may be something there.m

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OS swore by 4ppm phosphates.. may be something there.m

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Yeah I bet. Brian does 12 ppm po4 per 1000ml. I do 10 now but I might increase it.

Hows OS doing? I heard talk of dialysis? Hope he gets better. Rivercats had some health problems as well earlier. :(

Edit: 12 grams sorry. Not ppm
 
Yeah I bet. Brian does 12 ppm po4 per 1000ml. I do 10 now but I might increase it.

Hows OS doing? I heard talk of dialysis? Hope he gets better. Rivercats had some health problems as well earlier. :(

Edit: 12 grams sorry. Not ppm

He's hanging in there.. i don't know him personally but I'd hazzard to guess he's one tough old cookie..

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He's hanging in there.. i don't know him personally but I'd hazzard to guess he's one tough old cookie..

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Dont see much of Ian these days either


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Yeah I bet. Brian does 12 ppm po4 per 1000ml. I do 10 now but I might increase it.

Hows OS doing? I heard talk of dialysis? Hope he gets better. Rivercats had some health problems as well earlier. :(

Edit: 12 grams sorry. Not ppm


I knew there were some people missing from the forum, but I just couldn't put my finger on it. Lets hope they get better.


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UPDATE TIME!!!

Ok, so despite what I expected, my plants grew a lot while I was away. This defies my previous assumption that they grow faster when you watch/encourage them. Here are some observations:

Staurogyne repens: It has branched out, grown up, but most importantly, has grown longer leaves. Like RIDICULOUSLY long. I'm almost not even sure if it is staurogyne repens. The change is so significant that I am actually not sure if it is that or hygrophila polysperma or something. I'm not exaggerating in the least. It's crazy.

Ludwigia repens: It has grown upwards, branched out like the staurogyne repens, and grown larger leaves. Only one problem: some sort of deficiency. The new leaves, and some old ones, have little edges torn off, almost like something bit them off. I don't think it's fish though. I'm guessing potassium deficiency?

Rotala Rotundifolia: It grew substantially but isn't really coloring up obviously.

Cryptocoryne Undulata: Slow growth obviously, but also some new leaves are shooting up. It's doing well.

Cryptocoryne Parva: Shot up another new leaf. Looking good!

AR: New growth is pink, almost purple! Unfortunately its growing fairly slowly, the old leaves have a tiny bit of algae, but worst of all, have pinholes all over. :banghead:

AR mini: It's really just sitting there, not doing much. A bit of algae but not anything major. A bit of die off on the old leaves but nothing major.

Baby vesuvius: Good growth. They're still small now but they are growing and putting off runners.

Tomorrow the S. Repens will get a trim.
 

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Notice the pinholes and torn edges of the old leaves of the AR
 

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Notice the long leaves on the staurogyne repens Also there is a good view of a pinhole on one of the s. repens leaves in the bottom pic. Anyone know what it is?
 

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Those are some big ol staurs there Alex! What were you growing them under before? Pinholes would signify a potassium deficiency if I'm not mistaken..

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Those are some big ol staurs there Alex! What were you growing them under before? Pinholes would signify a potassium deficiency if I'm not mistaken..

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Thanks. Yes they are! Before it was a fugeray 20" at 12" to substrate and then moved to a 16" tall tank. So very low light.
 
I am remixing my PPS pro now. I'm thinking I'll change it from:

37 grams of K2SO4
28 grams of KNO3
5 grams of KH2PO4
18.5 grams of MgSO4

50 grams of CSM+B

Per 500 ml

To:

43 grams of K2SO4
28 grams of KNO3
8 grams of KH2PO4
21 grams of MgSO4

50 grams of CSM+B

Per 500 ml

I just tested phosphate and its at 1.5 ppm. I'm shooting for three so I'm going to increase it and see what happens. I also upped potassium and magnesium sulfate.
 
All about the tinkering! Just remember it's a marathon not a race;)

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So I tested the water and got 30 ppm nitrates and 1.5 ppm phosphate. I'm thinking I have both a minor potassium and minor phosphate deficiency. Potassium is the pinholes and phosphate is the reabsorption of leaf edges. I'd also like to ramp up the co2. My drop checker isn't here yet though. I will be away again for today and tomorrow so I did a double dose on PPS pro and 4 ml of excel. Co2 is on a timer now.
 
You may want to consider putting the KNO3 in a separate container. That way you can bump up the daily dose in address the potassium and phosphate deficiencies without going too high with the nitrates. You could do a daily half dose on the KNO3 solution and adjust as needed.
Yea, those star repens look more like H polysperma or other Hygro species. I think they are indeed star repens but are responding to the lights and/or ferts in an odd way. Very long leaves.
 
You may want to consider putting the KNO3 in a separate container. That way you can bump up the daily dose in address the potassium and phosphate deficiencies without going too high with the nitrates. You could do a daily half dose on the KNO3 solution and adjust as needed.
Yea, those star repens look more like H polysperma or other Hygro species. I think they are indeed star repens but are responding to the lights and/or ferts in an odd way. Very long leaves.


I'm just adding extra of the chemicals I need to the batch, not making new batches. And yes, I think its just the new light. It's now carpeting, sending out runners really fast just like my baby Vesuvius is starting to do, just much faster. It's also growing sideways, along the gravel instead of up.
 
Runners and side growth is a good sign. Oddly, when I increased my lighting, the star repens did a lot of vertical growth. It may be more of an issue with crowding. Those AR (mini?) are looking good.
 
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