ya hirocks is gone. And i hear that they werent so great either. They apparently had HORRIBLE customer service (people wouldnt hear from them for a month...no emails, calls..nothing...then the rock shows up one day..probably after they went and spent money elsewhere half the time lol) And the rock was very dense, so you'd need more of it. But for the price....60 bucks SHIPPED for 60 pounds wasnt a bad deal at all. Cheaper than going to the lfs and paying a buck a pound for lace rock after you count in all the gas cost that you just used.