Nu-Nu the eel
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Just checked the tank. One of our hatchet fish has like 10 spots of ich so i turned up the temp. Uh oh...
I am glad he is starting to eat! That is good news! I would wait until atleast tommorrow before switching meds. Do a large pwc & run some carbon in your filter for a few hours to remove any traces of meds. I actually would probably follow this with another large pwc after putting your old media back in to be sure you have removed as much of the meds as possible before starting new meds. And watch Gabriel closely for any changes! Good luck!!
You completely missed my point, and nowhere did I recommend keeping wild caught fish in water parameters that don't match the conditions that they are used to in the wild, which is what you are hinting with your reply. Using only one example and hoping you would see the benefit of a non-neutral pH, I said that: Domestically bred discus can thrive in a pH anywhere from 5.0-8.5. If I had a choice, I would keep the water for them acidic because many microorganisms do not grow around or below a pH of 5.5 and the low pH also helps to convert ammonia to ammonium ion (as a result of the free hydronium ions in solution) and this means that ammonia toxicity is of little worry in an acidic environment because ammonia will not be present in a harmful state. An acidic environment also makes it easier to rear fry for these same reasons.
I provided a basis for my reasoning that is backed by microbiology principles, and simple chemistry. Your statement about "a pH of 7.0 is recommended" has absolutely no basis on which it stands. Saying simply that "it allows fish from both extremes to adjust" is nonsense. Fish will adjust to pH changes over time. My proof...let's keep it consistent with one example...wild discus becoming domesticated. They have adjusted from a pH of 5.0 in many cases to as high as 9.0 from one hobbyist that I know that keeps them in liquid rock. This has been accomplished by years of domesticated breeding, though I've read about wild discus being bred in captivity in "wild conditions" and the fry being grown out in an alkaline pH with high levels of calcium and magnesium, so it needn't necessarily be done through many generations.
So are you suggesting that the fish lowered the pH of the tank? This is what it sounds like to me and most likely to others reading as well. Discus, and no other fish that I am aware of, are capable of altering the pH of their surroundings to ensure their survival. Please explain what you mean.
Mlani said:Um..not sure if that last post is in the right thread? I came in to check on how your guys fish are doing? Any change?
Um..not sure if that last post is in the right thread? I came in to check on how your guys fish are doing? Any change?
Andy Sager said:The only reason I posted here was because the original post was part of this thread. Back to trying to save Gabrial
Andy Sager said:The only reason I posted here was because the original post was part of this thread. Back to trying to save Gabrial
Came home today and everything was the same... Gabrial chillin in the death corner, ich infested fish, and a temp that wont raise! Its only at 81 so we keep turning it up!
Okay thanks mumma! It takes a long time for that heater to get going, but it got up to 88 last time we had ich! We will put blankets on top to trap the heat, and it has been very hot today so the house is cooking. Lol thanks!
Nu-Nu the eel said:Okay the heat is back to normal, perameters are good, lights are off. Is there anything els i can buy for him? I tried to feed a few flakes and he just ate one and spit it out. Ironic how 2 weeks ago i would chase him away because he was eating too many bloodworms, now i would be the happiest boy alive if he would just eat a few flakes..
Ya its a 40 gallon tank and i dont know the watts right now, but i do remember that it is rated for up to a 40 g. There is a blanket on top of the tank right now. Not sure what els there is to do for gabrial..., we have dosed 3 times poor guy is gettin skinny and still wont eat much at all... Should we buy special de worming flakes or something???
jetajockey said:How does frozen bloodworms increase risk of parasites?
I'm insists:
Blood worms (fresh or frozen) = Increase risk of parasites....
Good quality pellets is the best for fish, specially cichilds. IMO...