Any input into breeding apistogramma erempogyne?

[michellev512]

I just got a pair of these and they are beautiful but shy and not fairing well with my macmasteri...
So I've decided to give them their own tank and am going to try to breed.
Any insight??


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[Dallascowboys16]

As with most dwarf cichlids adding tannins to the water would be highly advantageous. (Indian Almond leaves come to mind for that job) along with %50 water changes bi-weekly if you are serious about getting them to spawn. Subdued lighting as well. Whats your M/F ratio? and also how large is the tank?

 

[michellev512]

It's a 20 gallon tall. I have a pair and was going to get a second female.

Driftwood, sand, caves and almond leaves. I've read 75 degrees with low lighting.


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[Brookster123]

Keeping them alone will likely help. I moved my pair if panduro from their loveless 10g. To a 20 long blackwater apisto haven and they dropped fry within a 10 days..

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[michellev512]

Do you think the 20 gallon high is big enough for just 3?


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[Dallascowboys16]

Do you think the 20 gallon high is big enough for just 3?


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The odd female out could very likely be harassed to death my the other. I have heard of Harems working in larger tanks but things can always go wrong.

 

[Brookster123]

I have 2:1 working in a 30l, they killed the 3rd older girl though. Each female has a spot on either end. I think the 20t may work, add lots and lots of caves. Sand substrate so tunneling is an option.

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[michellev512]

Hmm..then I may stick to just the 2. Since they are shy should I do any dither fish or just leave it to them...


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[Brookster123]

Not sure... perhaps some Hatchets or pencil fish??

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[Dallascowboys16]

I would do hatchets. They won't even be near where the apistos occupy being the lower half. They will also pose minimal to zero threat to the fry when they pop-up. Also, Brookster. Will you have any Cac females ready to sell soon? I need 1 or 2 more for my tank and can't really find them locally except for at bi-yearly auctions. Thanks!

 

[michellev512]

What kind of stones are those brookster?


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[Brookster123]

What kind of stones are those brookster?


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Random back yard rocks.

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[michellev512]

Well so much for an instant cycle! Ammonia is at .75 ugh!!!!?


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[michellev512]

I know it's bare for now..going to get some stones today


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[michellev512]

Any plants besides anubias that will tolerate low low light


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[Freakgecko91]

Java fern, java moss. Many crypts will do well. Be careful burying the anubias like that, it can rot that way. Anubias does best attached to driftwood or rock and out of the substrate typically

 

[Brookster123]

Java fern, java moss. Many crypts will do well. Be careful burying the anubias like that, it can rot that way. Anubias does best attached to driftwood or rock and out of the substrate typically

+1. Petsmart has all kinds of tissues cultures.

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[michellev512]

Ok...I've hot the rhizome out of the substrate on the anubia. Going shopping! ?


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[PNWaquarist]

I've had good luck with Staurogyne repens under low light (18" tall tank with a 17 W T8 bulb, water darkened by driftwood tannins). It'll grow more upright than it would under medium light. Mine are ~5" tall after four months. Also easy to find (Petsmart, etc.).

I second the hatchets suggestion. I've read that Silver (Common) Hatchets are more hardy and jump less than Marbled. But I've never kept them myself.

 

[michellev512]

Hmmm...noticing my dominant macmasteri seems to like the female eremnopyge. Is this unusual? They are swimming side by side. In fact he is waggling at the other make macmasteri when he nears her...


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