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cee219

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Hello, I'm a pretty new to the hobby and I'm having troubles deciding on which fish I'd like in my freshwater aquarium. I was wondering if any owners of 30-55 gallon tanks could please list what fish, plants and accessories they have in their tank? Thanks so much :D
 
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cee219 said:
Hello, I'm a pretty new to the hobby and I'm having troubles deciding on which fish I'd like in my freshwater aquarium. I was wondering if any owners of 30-55 gallon tanks could please list what fish, plants and accessories they have in their tank? Thanks so much :D

I dont have a 30-55 gallon but i just wanted to say that guppies are absolutly wonderful. lol. if you cant tell, im a guppy freak and thats all that i have. getting a few corys soon though. :D
 
right now im running my first fw i am sw man at heart, but anyway i have 2 neo. brichardi cichlids 2 cory cats (swartzi) sp. sorry. a few guppies form cycling, i may think about a small school of something but want to wait to see if the brichardis become too aggressive once they start breeding as this is my goal. Also i have about 4 inchs of sugar sized aragontie sand as a substrate, i use black river stone and black slate for decoration, caves and what not. there are some decent pics in my gallery .
 
Welcome to AA, cee219! :smilecolros: :wave:

A 30 - 55 gal aquarium is a great size to start with. Obviously, the 55 gal will offer more possibilities than the 30 gal - I recommend buying the biggest tank you can afford/have room for.

What are you looking for in an aquarium? Peaceful? Aggression? Colorful? Interesting behavior? Lots of small schooling fish? A few larger, centerpiece fish? The wierd and unusual? Do you want real or fake plants, lots of rocks, or no rocks? If you can answer these questions, you'll get alot of stocking suggestions.

cee219 said:
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No problem - I took care of it! :D
 
Depends on what you want.

Are you looking for a community tank (tetras, guppies, mollies, gouramis, etc) or something more agressive (cichlids).

I agree with QTOFFER. Definitley get the largest tank you can to start out with, you will be much happier that way ;)

In my 55 gal, I have 2 angels, 3 silver dollar, a small school (4) of rasbora hetermorpha, and a few cories.
 
First off, I would say you have two options for how to go about doing this...

Option #1 is what Devilishturtles just wrote above: decide upon a general "type" of tank and then once you have decided that, research what types of fish fit the profile.

Option #2 is to look online, or just go to a few local fish stores (lfs) and look at what they have. If there is one type of fish you just fall in love with, write down its name, then go home and research what other fish make good tankmates for it.

Among the things you will have to consider with tank mates are...

-- AGGRESSION. Aggressive fish will tend to bully timid ones, leading to death either directly or indirectly (a stressed fish eventually becomes a diseased fish, etc.)

-- SIZE. Not necessarily related to the above, though it often is. Sometimes non-aggressive fish can become...um...unusally aggressive when they are in a tank with other fish small enough to fit in their mouths. 8O

-- SPEED. Some fish are very active, bordering on hyperactive, others very slow moving. A very large but slow moving fish can actually get freaked out if it is in a tank with a school of smaller but very hyper fish (like zebra danios). The net result is the same as a fish that gets picked on; it gets stressed and is more likely to develop disease. Or, perhaps, all it does is stay in the plants/caves and hides all day...and what's the point in having a beautiful fish if it never comes out to be seen?

-- STRATA. Some fish like the top part of the water, some the middle, some the bottom. When planning fish, be sure that you aren't getting a whole ton of fish who all like the same strata, but get a nice mix so that the whole tank looks "full" while not being overfull. Also, having at least one type of bottom feeder (whether catfish, or something like ghost shrimp, whatever) to help clean up food flakes on the bottom of the tank is a big help. It doesn't replace regular maintenance, but it helps keep things clean between your regular gravel vacuuming.

-- NUMBERS & SEXES. Some fish really need to be in schools in order to thrive. (Note: schools usually means 6+ of the same species). It is really not healthy to have only 1 or 2 or 3 fish of a species if it is a species that needs to be in a school. It's just not fair to the fish. Other fish do best in pairs or threesomes. Often sex is important; for many species, a male/female pair will do fine but having two males will lead to major territorial disputes or even fighting to the death. (Bettas are the most common culprit here, though many gouramis display this male/male aggression as well.) For other fish, having a male/female pair puts too much stress on the females, and it is really necessary to have 2 or 3 females for every male in order to spread out his...um..."attention." Many livebearers (platies, mollies, swortails, etc.) fall into this category. Also, I have rainbowfish, and though I could keep a group of all males, I read about them and discovered that males will not really show their best/brightest colors unless there are also females present in the tank--so even though the females themselves are not as attractive, I got them in order to bring out the best colors in the males.

-- FIN NIPPING. Some fish are notorious for being fin nippers (e.g. tiger barbs), and should not be put in the same tank with fish having long, flowing fins.


As for your other questions, I would suggest plastic plants at first, just because they are far simpler to maintain. With real plants, you need to monitor your lighting (lighting that is enough to make the aquarium look pretty may not be powerful enough to give your plants the UV light they need), and your CO2 levels. Plus whenver you bring live plants into your tank, you risk bringing in snails or other invited guests who come along with the plants. So start with plastic, and if 6 months or a year down the road you decide you want live ones, that will give you a new twist to keep yourself occupied.

And no matter what, be sure you have some decorations that will make caves/hiding places. Even very outgoing fish can sometimes feel uneasy when first moved to a new tank; having hiding places eases the stress of that transition. And some fish regularly need caves. So whether you buy pre-made decorations in a cave-like shape, or make your own out of wood, rocks, etc., be sure some caves are there.

Sorry if this was too long. Hope it helps some!
 
[center:a83d00123d] :smilecolros: Welcome to AA, cee219!! :n00b: [/center:a83d00123d]
So many options!!!! First, what is the pH and hardness of your water? To get the true pH, allow a glass of water to stand over night.
 
My sig line has my tank specs...

I've recently had a tank melt down due to loosing electricity. I had angels, SAEs in the tank for years. My profile lists the fish that were recently lost.
 
Thanks for the welcome, quick replies, helpful ideas and putting up with the "what should I put in my tank? aah!" person, everyone! And thanks QTOFFER for erasing the twin thread I posted, I get click happy every now and then... :oops::wink:

For stock...I would really like a schooling tank, fish definitly no bigger than 3-4 inches or so and maybe somewhat interesting behaviors that are fairly non-aggressive. I'd like to look into Corys in the future, but there are so many kinds I'm not sure what to go with. I'd also like plently of live plants/rocks/wood to create with that whole authentic riverbed feel. Thoughts are appreciated :)
 
I recently got some tiger barbs (Puntius tetrazona) and I absolutely love them. They school tightly and are quite fun to watch as they chase and quarrel with each other. There is a green color morph of the tiger barb available too. I also highly recommend checker barbs (Puntius oligolepis). Most barbs are fin nippers, so long-finned fish like guppies would make bad tankmates. However, if you get a sufficiently large enough group of barbs, they will spend their time squabbling amongst themselves, and for the most part, leave their tankmates alone.

Other schooling/shoaling fish to consider:
Zebra danio (Danio rerio) - lightning fast, like to be near the surface
Harlequin Rasbora (Rasbora heteromorpha) - small and colorful
Serpae Tetra (Hyphessobrycon serpae) - very colorful, but can be fin nippers
Black Phantom Tetra (Megalomphodus megalopterus)
Black Neon Tetra (Hyphessobrycon ocillifer)

You just can't go wrong with corys, IMO. In a 29 gal, you could get a shoal of 5, and in a 55 gal, you could have two shoals of different species. Bronze corys (Corydoras aeneus) are the most commonly seen species, but if you look around, you might be able to find other species like peppered (paleatus), panda, julii, and schwartzi. Corys like to be in groups and are much more fun to watch if they are.

None of these fish grow to be more than 1-1/2 inches, so you could fit 3 schools of 6-8 in a 29 gal, or 6 schools of 6-8 in a 55 gal. AFAIK, all of the fish I mentioned are compatible with live plants, and they would all appreciate rocky hiding places and the mildly acidic conditions generated by the addition of driftwood.
 
QTOFFER - I was just looking at Cory's today. A somewhat local LFS had the schwartzi cory's but were asking $15 us a piece, and without knowing anything about cory's I thought that was high. Definitely prettier than regular cory's. What do you think?
 
Good call QTOFFER! The Schwarzi on liveaquaria.com didn't look like the cory I saw, they were the Sterba cory which do seem to command a higher price - and liveaquaria.com said those two were often confused.

I had seen them at Scott's Pet Shop in Westchester, a western burb of Chicago. A busy place that often has a good selection. The $15 price was just a few bucks over what liveaquaria.com had the Sterbas for, so I guess it wasn't all that high.
 
I would recommend something easy at first like bala sharks or a school of tiger barbs or tetras. On the size aquarium you are looking for depends on how much space you have available and how much money you are willing to spend. Of course I would recommend a larger tank so you are able to keep more and different fish. After you are comfortable with fish keeping I would recommend something such as African cichlids. They are very neat and colorful fish.
 
How big is your tank exactly, cause certain fish that are suitable for a 55 gallon aren't suitable for a 30 gallon tank. Next, how experienced are you with fish. Lastly, what type of fish are you interested in? Small, large, peaceful, carnivorous, colorful, dull, fast, slow, normal, unusuall, and so on?
 
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