xxwolfpackof1xx
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whats the salt do exactly
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are my fish and plants going to be safe with salt
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xxwolfpackof1xx said:whats the salt do exactly
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xxwolfpackof1xx said:lol we shuld get jsoong on here
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The first is that the salt itself kills ich. I don't think this is the case. If it killed it, why wouldn't the initial dose kill it?
@zagz read post above yours its my currnt stockk list i also have a 4" airstone tht runs 24/7
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Salt do kill ich (by an osmotic stress on the parasite). However, ich has 3 stages to its life-cycle. The trophant (the cysts or spots on the fish) and the tomont (encapsulated stage in gravel) are NOT susceptible to salt (or other meds or heat for that matter). Only the free swimming theronts can be killed. (My previous posts I called them tomites ... I think that is a mistake per article below ... have to go search & retype the correct name....)
Ichthyophthirius multifiliis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
This is the reason that initial doses of salt or meds don't kill ich, you have to treat till the ich cysts fall off the fish & hatch into the susceptible theronts before they can be killed.
Raising temp increases the speed of the hatching, so shorten treatment time. However, at temp of 88F +, heat alone will kill the theronts.
jsoong said:What plants & how cold will it get without a heater? I think most plants will survive at room temp for a while.
xxwolfpackof1xx said:anacharis mmarimo ball and anubias room temp 65-70
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xxwolfpackof1xx said:im treating the whole tank seeing as its the whole tankk not just a fish
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The only thing I debated in removing a fish to QT, then putting him back is doesn't the ick still inhabit the tank? That's why I used QC, wiped out the ick and I didn't have to worry about killing all my plants or ick still being in there.
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jsoong said:Another feature of the theront is that they can only survive for a short time free swimming. They die within 24-48 hrs if they cannot find a fish host. Therefore, you don't need to treat the main tank if you remove all the fish to hospital. You just need to let it sit empty of fish for a couple weeks to kill off all ich. <The tomotes in the gravel can survive alone, you have to leave enough time for them all to hatch. It is a good idea to raise the temp in the tank to 70 or 80 to make sure all tomotes are hatched within a week or so, and give an extra week for all the theronts to die off.>
Same reasoning goes for QTing plants. Leave them in a tank free of fish for 2 weeks (at a reasonable temp) and most fish diseases are gone.