Hi ive decided to do a new thread as i have several issues that have come out of no where with my sub tropical tank.
i will try to give as much info as possible.
Set up
465 119 Gallon
subtropical tank
2 External Filters
1 internal Filter
1 bubble pump
No live plants No new additions for over a year.
Tank occupants
1 female Ryukin 3yrs old
1 female Golden fantail 2yrs old
1 female calico fantail ( main breeding interest female) 2yrs old
2 male black moors 2yrs old and 3yrs old
1 female black moor 1yr and a half old
1 variatus platy
3 female wcms
2 female danios
1 male danio all around 2yrs old
No live plants have ever been used. I feed sinking pellets for fancie, mirco pellets for sub tropical fish , bloodworm pellets, frozen daphia, brimpshrimp and occasionally live versions as a treat. I feed veg every other day. peas, cabbage, runner beans, broccoli, cucumber and spinach mainly green veg.
My first issue
Out of no where with no new additions in terms of ornaments or fish .
My Ryukin developed what looked like small skin tags on the inside of her tail fin. I also later noticed one or two on her dorsal fin and her under belly fins. The cycle of this what looked like a small white worm parasite would start by looking like a salt grain but slight larger than the ich kind and then a small white worm would hang from it and then a little red sore would be left behind. I see no fork like tail, and the images i have seen of anchor worm dont look the same. But i decided to treat with Parazin P tablets from the aquatic centre after first doze i went 2 weeks free then saw the parasite again so redozed i did a longer treatment and redozed a week later after a waterchange. so i have done 3 dozes of parazin p tablets 4 tablets each time. This was calculated by aquatic centere as doze i neede they sold the individual tablets. I went up till the water change on sunday with no sign of the white worm. But the day after the water change i can see in same place on Ryukin the little bony skin tag on her tail. she doenst have as many like 2. I am despairing cause do and should i just keep treating with more parazin p tablets? even though im not even sure this is anchor worm?
issue 2 since using the parazin P , during the first dose i noticed my 3yr old black moor had a slimy stringy type stuff hanging of his body like on his slime coat. This then went away. But again yesterday i noticed the same stringy type slime coming of the top half of his body, he now has a slight bluey grey look to his body near his dorsal fin and upper back. Yesterday his dorsal fin was floppy and he looked bit down. I did a water test and am and nitrite were 0 but nitrate was high at 40 ppm , i did another water change and the nitrate is the same. i tested my tap water and its reading the same about 40nitrate. I have always had nitrate at 5ppm - 10 i dont know why its jumped up or why my tap water is reading so high i live in London England in the city in a block of flats. He IS acting normal other wise but sat on the floor to rest twice before the water change.
issue 3 , My 1yr old female black moor, has on the side of her tail fin a little white patch which has been then for over a month now with no changes or signs of ill health. She is one of those moors that is changeing colours and has orange patches breaking up her blackness. I thought this was part of her colour change but looking at it closely it looks a little raise and cotton like. I use melafix occasionally to help heal wounds. But this doenst seem to have helped this.
Other than these issues. Every one acts completely normally even the Ryukin with the parasite she hasnt show any other sign of ill health and every one is active eating well. The only one who seems unhappy was the 3yr old black moor y.day but his fine today but still has the grey ting on his upper body.
I am no happy at the moment cause i dont know what to do cause i dont want to keep stressing them out with waterchanges and more meds. Also im to scared to try salt case i get it wrong, ive tried to take pictures but they are just too fast.
I think my nitrates might be due to over feeding so im keeping a check on that and makeing sure i remove any uneaten veg. I have large pebbles on the bottom of my tank so its almost bare bottom so this helps minimise waste being stored there. I also am upset cause i am soo good with tank maintenance i do 50% water changes every week never missed one and i clean my internal filter weekly in tank water, i do the external filters every four weeks, but not at the same time. i do one on week four and the other the following week. i work soo hard on this tank im just frustrated as to how my fish got a parasite in the first place. I'm suspecting from live food which im no longer going to buy will stick with frozen versions.
i will try to give as much info as possible.
Set up
465 119 Gallon
subtropical tank
2 External Filters
1 internal Filter
1 bubble pump
No live plants No new additions for over a year.
Tank occupants
1 female Ryukin 3yrs old
1 female Golden fantail 2yrs old
1 female calico fantail ( main breeding interest female) 2yrs old
2 male black moors 2yrs old and 3yrs old
1 female black moor 1yr and a half old
1 variatus platy
3 female wcms
2 female danios
1 male danio all around 2yrs old
No live plants have ever been used. I feed sinking pellets for fancie, mirco pellets for sub tropical fish , bloodworm pellets, frozen daphia, brimpshrimp and occasionally live versions as a treat. I feed veg every other day. peas, cabbage, runner beans, broccoli, cucumber and spinach mainly green veg.
My first issue
Out of no where with no new additions in terms of ornaments or fish .
My Ryukin developed what looked like small skin tags on the inside of her tail fin. I also later noticed one or two on her dorsal fin and her under belly fins. The cycle of this what looked like a small white worm parasite would start by looking like a salt grain but slight larger than the ich kind and then a small white worm would hang from it and then a little red sore would be left behind. I see no fork like tail, and the images i have seen of anchor worm dont look the same. But i decided to treat with Parazin P tablets from the aquatic centre after first doze i went 2 weeks free then saw the parasite again so redozed i did a longer treatment and redozed a week later after a waterchange. so i have done 3 dozes of parazin p tablets 4 tablets each time. This was calculated by aquatic centere as doze i neede they sold the individual tablets. I went up till the water change on sunday with no sign of the white worm. But the day after the water change i can see in same place on Ryukin the little bony skin tag on her tail. she doenst have as many like 2. I am despairing cause do and should i just keep treating with more parazin p tablets? even though im not even sure this is anchor worm?
issue 2 since using the parazin P , during the first dose i noticed my 3yr old black moor had a slimy stringy type stuff hanging of his body like on his slime coat. This then went away. But again yesterday i noticed the same stringy type slime coming of the top half of his body, he now has a slight bluey grey look to his body near his dorsal fin and upper back. Yesterday his dorsal fin was floppy and he looked bit down. I did a water test and am and nitrite were 0 but nitrate was high at 40 ppm , i did another water change and the nitrate is the same. i tested my tap water and its reading the same about 40nitrate. I have always had nitrate at 5ppm - 10 i dont know why its jumped up or why my tap water is reading so high i live in London England in the city in a block of flats. He IS acting normal other wise but sat on the floor to rest twice before the water change.
issue 3 , My 1yr old female black moor, has on the side of her tail fin a little white patch which has been then for over a month now with no changes or signs of ill health. She is one of those moors that is changeing colours and has orange patches breaking up her blackness. I thought this was part of her colour change but looking at it closely it looks a little raise and cotton like. I use melafix occasionally to help heal wounds. But this doenst seem to have helped this.
Other than these issues. Every one acts completely normally even the Ryukin with the parasite she hasnt show any other sign of ill health and every one is active eating well. The only one who seems unhappy was the 3yr old black moor y.day but his fine today but still has the grey ting on his upper body.
I am no happy at the moment cause i dont know what to do cause i dont want to keep stressing them out with waterchanges and more meds. Also im to scared to try salt case i get it wrong, ive tried to take pictures but they are just too fast.
I think my nitrates might be due to over feeding so im keeping a check on that and makeing sure i remove any uneaten veg. I have large pebbles on the bottom of my tank so its almost bare bottom so this helps minimise waste being stored there. I also am upset cause i am soo good with tank maintenance i do 50% water changes every week never missed one and i clean my internal filter weekly in tank water, i do the external filters every four weeks, but not at the same time. i do one on week four and the other the following week. i work soo hard on this tank im just frustrated as to how my fish got a parasite in the first place. I'm suspecting from live food which im no longer going to buy will stick with frozen versions.
