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On one forum there is someone that has a friend that has had a tank up for something like 15 years. Mineralized soil substrate - Substrates - Aquatic Plant Central it is something I am thinking about for a 29 gallon planted tank. Right now I have tried some soil under fluorite with great results. There was a little more algae on startup but other than having to trim the plants every week it is great. They are 5 gallon tanks and I don't use any co2.