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I went to the LFS in Spokane today, and checked out the tanks again, and got a huge piece of driftwood from them. It's in another post in the forum. But just wanted to comment that the gal that runs that lfs knows her fish, and I was looking at the tanks, and the tanks with the GBR's and Discus was at 87 degrees. The rest of the tanks were much cooler. And her GBR's were Stunning. Some say that the ones I had were stunning, but her's puts mine to shame, lol. And mine didn't last, couldn't keep them alive for more than a couple months. I wonder if it's the temp.... Just thought I'd run this by ya......