Help. I have no idea what type of Mbunas these are

[WendiDell]

I have 2 very different Mbunas and no idea what they are.
One is almost all black with a very dark blue shimmer that only shows when the light hits it the right way and it has light blue fins.
The other one is a golden brown with dark brown stripes.
I've been trying to figure them out on my own, no such luck.
Any Idea's are appreciated.

 

[johmartz]

I have 2 very different Mbunas and no idea what they are.
One is almost all black with a very dark blue shimmer that only shows when the light hits it the right way and it has light blue fins.
The other one is a golden brown with dark brown stripes.
I've been trying to figure them out on my own, no such luck.
Any Idea's are appreciated.

The dark one looks like a blue trewavasse (?) and the other one I'm not familiar with.

 

[kay-bee19]

The dark one is a Pseudotropheus sp. acei 'Msuli' (white tail acei).

The other one appears to be a female of some dimorphic zebra (metriaclima/maylandia) species. The females of the zebra species in my avatar look similar to that.

 

[MonsterfishGuy]

And if fins are yellow it would be an black acei "itunji"!

 

[MonsterfishGuy]

The dark one is a Pseudotropheus sp. acei 'Msuli' (white tail acei).

The other one appears to be a female of some dimorphic zebra (metriaclima/maylandia) species. The females of the zebra species in my avatar look similar to that.

Do you have a link, because in my encyclopedia there is the blue acei, the itunji one (black) and the msuli is blue, is there a black msuli??
Not in my book but maybe you have a link for me!
Thank you in advance,

 

[kay-bee19]

The msuli is a separate variant (they're the purple yellow-tailed variant, but can appear blue depending on mood).

The other two variants are the black aceis.
http://www.cichlid-forum.com/articles/ps_acei.php

Ngara variant:
Species Profiles -- Cichlid-Forum

Msuli variant:
Species Profiles -- Cichlid-Forum

You can also google 'acei and ngara', 'acei and itungi' and 'acei and msuli' for additional information.

 

[WendiDell]

The dark one is a Pseudotropheus sp. acei 'Msuli' (white tail acei).

The other one appears to be a female of some dimorphic zebra (metriaclima/maylandia) species. The females of the zebra species in my avatar look similar to that.

, I looked up the Acei white tail and it's identical . I read about them too, they seem like they will be a nice addition to my tank. They were so tiny, and quick, when I bought them 2 months ago that I couldn't get anything but a black blur when I took their pics. Now that they are a bit bigger they are just beautiful. They spend most of their time swimming with my Electric Yellow Labs, and another one that I have now clue what it is. She's shaped like the labs but she is solid white, but not an albino.
Oh well, three down two more to go . The Golden brown Mbuna has been a real tough one to ID. I hope I have better luck with the one that looks like a lab except solid white.
As soon as I get a good picture of her I'll post it. I have some already but Daisey always goes transparent in pictures it's a bit of a pain.

 

[WendiDell]

Just for the heck of it I googled White lab and sure enough there was a picture of Daisey. She looked like the Yellow labs in shape and the angle of her face. But I didn't know that there were White labs. Now I do, s that only leaves the Golden brown one in the bottom photo to ID and I'll be finished. All my Mbunas finally will be identified.
Thank you all for your help. Everyone on AA is great