Go Back   Aquarium Advice - Aquarium Forum Community > Freshwater > Freshwater & Brackish - General Discussion
Click Here to Login

Join Aquarium Advice Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on AquariumAdvice.com
 
Old 10-03-2011, 03:06 PM   #1
Aquarium Advice FINatic
 
Travis55's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Cedar Rapids, IA
Posts: 716
tank mates?

I have 15 feeder gold fish, 2 balas, to red fins,2 irridesents and 2 tiger barbs. All in a 55 gallon tank. I was gonna get 50-100 dirt cheap guppies but the guy said my fish are too aggressive... I thought my fish were non-semi aggressive? Thanksfor the advice
__________________

__________________
Travis55 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-2011, 04:22 PM   #2
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Sydney
Posts: 1,472
oh dear...

i don't know where to begin....

Your tank is crazily overstocked!
__________________

__________________
Bubble_B0y is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-2011, 04:25 PM   #3
Aquarium Advice FINatic
 
Travis55's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Cedar Rapids, IA
Posts: 716
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bubble_B0y View Post
oh dear...

i don't know where to begin....

Your tank is crazily overstocked!
23 small fish in a 55 gallon tank is way overstocked?
__________________
Travis55 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-2011, 04:29 PM   #4
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Florida
Posts: 2,706
Quote:
Originally Posted by Travis55

23 small fish in a 55 gallon tank is way overstocked?
Those sharks won't stay small for long. Some will get one to two feet long. And goldfish are a huge load.
__________________
I support the right to arm bears.
blert is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-2011, 04:31 PM   #5
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
LyndaB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 5,816
It's not about the number of fish in your tank. It's about the species you have and what those particular species requirements are.

For example, you should never have two red fin sharks together (I have to presume you mean sharks). Each shark will require a minimum of 55-75 gallons due to their aggression level. And yes, the sharks will eat the guppies and probably the feeders.

Feeders are know for being in horrible health, as they are not really meant to live basically. You're better off having a separate tank and raising your own feeders, if necessary.

Tiger barbs are aggressive and you should have a large school of them to curb the aggression. Guppies would not stand a chance.

Bala sharks require groups of 5 or more, as do the irridescents.

Did you research any of these species prior to purchase or did you just get really bad advice from your lfs?
__________________
75: blood parrots, featherfin cat, emperor tetras, turquoise rainbowfish, BN plecos, japanese trapdoor; 46: WCMM, gold inca snails, ghost, bamboo & amano shrimp, kuhli loaches, rummynose & ember tetras, endlers, platies, flame gourami, guppies; 16: pygmy, peppered, loxozonus corys, otos, assassins, RCS ... ~ Research PRIOR to purchase.... ~
LyndaB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-2011, 04:34 PM   #6
Aquarium Advice Freak
 
fred's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Canada
Posts: 436
Yes your tank is overstocked. Bala sharks get very big. Tiger barbs should be kept in schools of at least 5. Goldfish have a large bioload. As well don't they prefer colder water? Whereas tigers are a warm water tropical fish. I would get rid of all the gold fish and get more tiger barbs ( like 8 more...not all added at the same time though). Tigers are very cool in a big school, they swim together and can be very entertaining. I would consider taking the Balas back too as they will outgrow your tank.
__________________
fred is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-2011, 04:41 PM   #7
come get me tang police!
 
jetajockey's Avatar


 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: In a swamp near you /Pensacola, FL
Posts: 12,047
Feeder goldfish are usually common goldfish, which can get over a foot easily. They are all small in the store because they don't usually live long (at least in those conditions), and are utilized as feeders while they are still small.
__________________
Dont Forget to Join my FREE weekly Plant Giveaway.
Click Here!
jetajockey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-2011, 04:46 PM   #8
Aquarium Advice FINatic
 
Travis55's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Cedar Rapids, IA
Posts: 716
So I'm off to a terrible start... my buddies feeders are 5" long. Ill give him the bala sharks and feeders. If iget more tiger barbs will they be ok with guppies?
__________________
Travis55 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-2011, 04:47 PM   #9
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
LyndaB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 5,816
No, the barbs will most likely attack the guppies.

You really should rehome everything but the barbs and then stock around that species.
__________________
75: blood parrots, featherfin cat, emperor tetras, turquoise rainbowfish, BN plecos, japanese trapdoor; 46: WCMM, gold inca snails, ghost, bamboo & amano shrimp, kuhli loaches, rummynose & ember tetras, endlers, platies, flame gourami, guppies; 16: pygmy, peppered, loxozonus corys, otos, assassins, RCS ... ~ Research PRIOR to purchase.... ~
LyndaB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-2011, 04:48 PM   #10
come get me tang police!
 
jetajockey's Avatar


 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: In a swamp near you /Pensacola, FL
Posts: 12,047
Some people have issues with tiger barbs and tankmates and others do fine with them. I wouldn't stock that many guppies unless you are going to do something with them, though. They explode in population pretty easily, which is probably why your friend has so many to get rid of.
__________________
Dont Forget to Join my FREE weekly Plant Giveaway.
Click Here!
jetajockey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-2011, 04:53 PM   #11
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
skiweeangel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 1,235
Tiger barbs are bad fin nippers. Usually it's not recommended to keep them with anything that has long flowing fins. But I have a small school kept with long finned danios which are very fast and have not had problems with nippy tigers. I think they enjoy taunting them! I have watched them swim slowly up to the tiger school and them dart through them but the tigers aren't able to catch them. I'm got sure if guppies are as fast, maybe someone else could tell you.
__________________
skiweeangel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-2011, 05:20 PM   #12
Aquarium Advice Freak
 
fred's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Canada
Posts: 436
IMO and experience with tiger barbs if you have a big enough school they will stick to themselves. That's why I recommend having 10. They will create their own pecking order and only "fight" one another.
__________________
fred is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-2011, 05:54 PM   #13
Aquarium Advice FINatic
 
Travis55's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Cedar Rapids, IA
Posts: 716
A buddy of mine breeds african cichlids and will sell them to me for $3 each. I think I'm gonna just switch to them.... will any of my sharks or barbs survive?
thanks
travis
__________________
Travis55 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-2011, 09:04 PM   #14
Aquarium Advice Freak
 
fred's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Canada
Posts: 436
Quote:
Originally Posted by Travis55
A buddy of mine breeds african cichlids and will sell them to me for $3 each. I think I'm gonna just switch to them.... will any of my sharks or barbs survive?
thanks
travis
IDK I've had parrot cichilids and tiger barbs together. Never had a bala due to how big they get. I would still recommend a few more tiger barbs.
__________________
fred is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-2011, 09:11 PM   #15
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
LyndaB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 5,816
Quote:
Originally Posted by Travis55 View Post
A buddy of mine breeds african cichlids and will sell them to me for $3 each. I think I'm gonna just switch to them.... will any of my sharks or barbs survive?
thanks
travis
Your tank is not suitable for any of the shark species that you want. Sorry.
__________________
75: blood parrots, featherfin cat, emperor tetras, turquoise rainbowfish, BN plecos, japanese trapdoor; 46: WCMM, gold inca snails, ghost, bamboo & amano shrimp, kuhli loaches, rummynose & ember tetras, endlers, platies, flame gourami, guppies; 16: pygmy, peppered, loxozonus corys, otos, assassins, RCS ... ~ Research PRIOR to purchase.... ~
LyndaB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-2011, 09:16 PM   #16
Aquarium Advice FINatic
 
Travis55's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Cedar Rapids, IA
Posts: 716
Quote:
Originally Posted by LyndaB View Post
Your tank is not suitable for any of the shark species that you want. Sorry.
They should really tell people they need a swimming pool to own sharks. Lol I guess my biggest question is will the cichlids kill the sharks? I want a bigger tank in my near future. Will the sharks survive?
__________________
Travis55 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-2011, 11:00 PM   #17
Aquarium Advice FINatic
 
Travis55's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Cedar Rapids, IA
Posts: 716
Anyone please???
__________________
Travis55 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-2011, 11:18 PM   #18
Aquarium Advice Freak
 
fred's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Canada
Posts: 436
I don't think they will. However there's always a chance, if the sharks are bigger than they will be fine.
__________________
fred is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-2011, 11:25 PM   #19
Aquarium Advice FINatic
 
Travis55's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Cedar Rapids, IA
Posts: 716
Quote:
Originally Posted by fred View Post
I don't think they will. However there's always a chance, if the sharks are bigger than they will be fine.
The cichlids are 1-3" and my smallest shark is 2-3". My irridesent sharks is close to 4".
__________________
Travis55 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-04-2011, 09:10 AM   #20
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
LyndaB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 5,816
Just how large of a tank are you considering upgrading to, and what exactly is "near future"?

The best laid plans about getting a larger tank quite often don't come to fruition. Sometimes life gets in the way.
__________________

__________________
75: blood parrots, featherfin cat, emperor tetras, turquoise rainbowfish, BN plecos, japanese trapdoor; 46: WCMM, gold inca snails, ghost, bamboo & amano shrimp, kuhli loaches, rummynose & ember tetras, endlers, platies, flame gourami, guppies; 16: pygmy, peppered, loxozonus corys, otos, assassins, RCS ... ~ Research PRIOR to purchase.... ~
LyndaB is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
tan, tank mates

Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on AquariumAdvice.com

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
lobster tank mates nedge85 Freshwater & Brackish - General Discussion 7 08-31-2011 07:26 PM
Tank mates LemmiWinks Freshwater & Brackish - General Discussion 6 08-15-2011 06:12 PM
Need help! I was given a tank w/fish, too crowded hermansmama Freshwater & Brackish - General Discussion 13 08-01-2011 02:07 PM
Leopard bush fish tank mates oddballfan33 Freshwater & Brackish - General Discussion 5 07-31-2011 08:28 PM
Advice on newish (and first) tropical/fresh 10 gallon... FoxGlove Freshwater & Brackish - Getting Started 2 07-25-2011 01:22 PM







» Photo Contest Winners







All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:57 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.