Go Back   Aquarium Advice - Aquarium Forum Community > Freshwater > Freshwater & Brackish - Breeding
Click Here to Login

Join Aquarium Advice Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on AquariumAdvice.com
 
Old 05-03-2012, 09:34 PM   #1
Aquarium Advice Newbie
 
bitz's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Langley BC
Posts: 6
Question Muppies vs Gollies

I've been doing tons of research on Muppies (Male Molly and Female Guppy) and Gollies (Male Guppies with Female Mollies)... I've only found materials regarding the Muppies working out... Does any one have experience in these matters? I have a fresh batch of black molly fry and if it is the case of female mollies needed for this hybrid I want to segregate the female fry before sexual maturation so as to ensure their virginity so to say.

Any comments from those with experience or knowledge is very appreciated

__________________
bitz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2012, 10:21 PM   #2
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
butterfly_koi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: near Sedalia Missouri
Posts: 1,840
I have not done it myself but have done allot of reading on and very interested on the matter, if you don't mind I want to follow this thread and see what you find out. I've been wanting to try this myself
__________________
Why does Sea World have a seafood restaurant? I'm halfway through my fish burger and I realize, Oh my goodness.... I could be eating a slow learner!
-Lynda Montgomery
butterfly_koi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2012, 10:28 PM   #3
Aquarium Advice Newbie
 
bitz's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Langley BC
Posts: 6
too bad it wasn't female mollies for sure... in that case I could just use my untainted female molly fry haha
__________________
bitz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2012, 10:42 PM   #4
Aquarium Advice Newbie
 
bitz's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Langley BC
Posts: 6
Mind you I have heard that mollies sexually mature anywhere between 8 weeks and 6 months... soooo not really sure how i"m going to go abouts this...
__________________
bitz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2012, 11:13 PM   #5
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
butterfly_koi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: near Sedalia Missouri
Posts: 1,840
I've read that a guppy and a platy can't cross but I'm going to try it. So I put my female platy in the tank I keep my male guppy in. I know she's still a virgin because I got her when she was a fry. She hasn't been in there a full 20 minutes and he's already trying to breed with her
__________________
Why does Sea World have a seafood restaurant? I'm halfway through my fish burger and I realize, Oh my goodness.... I could be eating a slow learner!
-Lynda Montgomery
butterfly_koi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2012, 11:18 PM   #6
Aquarium Advice Newbie
 
bitz's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Langley BC
Posts: 6
Best if luck! I've seen many people scoff at the idea... saying its either not possible or cruel or they will get ill or they do not produce viable offspring.... I've only read accusations though... no first hand accounts of such mishaps... otherwise I'd be second thinking this trial...
__________________
bitz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2012, 11:28 PM   #7
come get me tang police!
 
jetajockey's Avatar


 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: In a swamp near you /Pensacola, FL
Posts: 12,046
The few things I recall reading on the subject resulted in very high mortality /infertility rates on successful spawns.

I've not found any scientific journals on it though, just hobbyist stuff. High mortality and infertility are a normal occurrence when hybridizing though. It's mother nature's way.
__________________
Dont Forget to Join my FREE weekly Plant Giveaway.
Click Here!
jetajockey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-04-2012, 02:06 AM   #8
Aquarium Advice Activist
 
Langerz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 113
Search youtube. There are a few successful claim on there.
__________________
Langerz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-04-2012, 03:30 AM   #9
Aquarium Advice Addict
Community Moderator
 
Autumnsky's Avatar



POTM Champion
Tank of the Month Award
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Northern Colorado, USA
Posts: 16,505
Hi, I just wanted to follow along, I have seen thick tail guppies and that is what they called them at the store, just Guppies. lol
__________________
New to FW fish? First tank in a long time or EVER??? Need some info on keeping fish?

Start here - Aquarium Advice Article
https://www.aquariumadvice.com/guide...ater-aquarium/

FW Favorites right now Clown Loaches, any shrimp - SW Vase Red Mangroves
Autumnsky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-29-2012, 02:41 AM   #10
Aquarium Advice Newbie
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Southern California
Posts: 2
Hello all. (:

Now I don't know if anyone is going to believe me, but I have actually bred gollies. (I have been calling them muppies for a while, whoops!)

I have a virgin balloon belly molly, and about a month and a half ago I introduced two male cobra guppies into my tank. (The only other fish in the tank is a betta; there is also a ghost shrimp)
One of the guppies died the next day. (I should know better than to buy fish from petsmart. :/)
I saw the other guppy trying to mate with the molly (I thought unsuccessfully) many times over the next week. He unfortunately died shortly after.

Over the next few weeks I noticed my molly getting larger and quite exhausted. I thought she may have gotten something the guppies had.

One day I woke up and saw fry! I fished them out and put them into a fish bowl, trying to keep them from being eaten. I estimate there are about 25 of them.

After the fry were safe I looked it up online... and to my complete surprise, molly and guppies can breed!

So yes they can breed, I discovered completely by accident.

I have some pictures if anyone would like to see, but the fry were born on the 23rd so they're only a few days old as of now. They are growing so fast. (:

I obviously have no proof to back his up but, there's my story.
__________________
ShadowRawr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-29-2012, 02:44 AM   #11
come get me tang police!
 
jetajockey's Avatar


 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: In a swamp near you /Pensacola, FL
Posts: 12,046
Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadowRawr View Post
Hello all. (:

Now I don't know if anyone is going to believe me, but I have actually bred gollies. (I have been calling them muppies for a while, whoops!)

I have a virgin balloon belly molly, and about a month and a half ago I introduced two male cobra guppies into my tank. (The only other fish in the tank is a betta; there is also a ghost shrimp)
One of the guppies died the next day. (I should know better than to buy fish from petsmart. :/)
I saw the other guppy trying to mate with the molly (I thought unsuccessfully) many times over the next week. He unfortunately died shortly after.

Over the next few weeks I noticed my molly getting larger and quite exhausted. I thought she may have gotten something the guppies had.

One day I woke up and saw fry! I fished them out and put them into a fish bowl, trying to keep them from being eaten. I estimate there are about 25 of them.

After the fry were safe I looked it up online... and to my complete surprise, molly and guppies can breed!

So yes they can breed, I discovered completely by accident.

I have some pictures if anyone would like to see, but the fry were born on the 23rd so they're only a few days old as of now. They are growing so fast. (:

I obviously have no proof to back his up but, there's my story.
Welcome to the forum. How do you know for sure that the female was a virgin?

You should do some week by week photos of the babies and post them on a thread so we can see how they progress.
__________________
Dont Forget to Join my FREE weekly Plant Giveaway.
Click Here!
jetajockey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-29-2012, 02:49 AM   #12
Aquarium Advice Newbie
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Southern California
Posts: 2
I had her since she was smaller than a dime, and she was in my tank with only my betta for about six months after that.

I'll put some pictures up asap.
__________________
ShadowRawr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-29-2012, 02:56 AM   #13
come get me tang police!
 
jetajockey's Avatar


 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: In a swamp near you /Pensacola, FL
Posts: 12,046
Awesome, looking forward to it.
__________________
Dont Forget to Join my FREE weekly Plant Giveaway.
Click Here!
jetajockey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-30-2012, 01:01 AM   #14
Aquarium Advice Addict
Community Moderator
 
Autumnsky's Avatar



POTM Champion
Tank of the Month Award
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Northern Colorado, USA
Posts: 16,505
Looking forward to seeing the babies grow!
__________________
New to FW fish? First tank in a long time or EVER??? Need some info on keeping fish?

Start here - Aquarium Advice Article
https://www.aquariumadvice.com/guide...ater-aquarium/

FW Favorites right now Clown Loaches, any shrimp - SW Vase Red Mangroves
Autumnsky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2012, 12:35 AM   #15
Aquarium Advice Apprentice
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 26
I just had one of my mollies give birth to 3 gollie fry today too! I would love to see pictures of yours to compare how they look as they grow.
__________________
Georgia777 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2012, 01:25 AM   #16
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
ashleynicole's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Florida
Posts: 1,787
I am in the planning process of setting up a live bearer tank so this is interesting to me. I will be following as well.
__________________
ashleynicole is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on AquariumAdvice.com

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off








» Photo Contest Winners







All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:10 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2022, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.