Many people "CLAIM" to have used "MANY" products with success. However, success is only measures in numbers and unless you can provide those numbers in detail with supporting documentation, I will venture on the side of caution first.
By stating that "the proof is in the Internet" on what works and what doesn't is an invitation on initiating, debating, and losing such a debate. Again, I will reiterate that you've supplied no info to back up that claim. To go one step further, as pointed out previously, temperature plays a vital role in these "bacteria colony" products and when you add in the fact that the entire US is fairly cold right now, they don't last during shipping.
One more thing while we're at it. As for those "products", while there are a few that claim Dr. Tim's and a couple that agree about TSS, you're the ONLY promoter of ATM products on this forum.
Op, I'm not trying to take anything away from your thread. I feel Quest has you pointed in the proper direction and suggest you follow those guidelines. I'm just trying to add some clarity on the post I quoted. Hope this helps.
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