ImACoolguy
Aquarium Advice Addict
And what about Birchirs
Maybe an adult and some hiding places....
Caleb
And what about Birchirs
Sorry, me and Jesse (whose opinion I respect a lot) got kinda into discussion. As for the light you won't be able to do plants with this stock so its really all about aesthetics. That is a good light with a good reputation but possibly a bit overkill. But if its what you want it should work nicely. Keep it on 8 hours or less daily to help avoid algae.
As for the birchirs I cannot answer.
A P. Delhezi would look nice in there…
Sent from my iPhone using Aquarium Advice
Ok so I have a new theory for setup. 2 O's, 3 rapheal, 2 Birchir, 5 silver dollars. 1 Banded leporinus. Maybe. Maybe get a Pleco but only if theres an Algae problem where I'm setting it up. Do keep in mind I have a grow tank. Its only 30 gallons but I can get them big enough to not get outgrown and eaten by the O's
No. Its as simple as that.
OSCARS: you can manage 2 Oscars in that tank if you're careful, watchful, and willing to have them almost alone. They make an unbelievably huge mess in a short time. Its quite insane. Not to mention that they can be aggressive if overcrowded with weaker fish.
RAPHEALS: these are also pretty big fish. Almost a foot long. They are predators, and they can cause major damage if the Oscar tries to swallow them. Lot of spikes. You will also have to feed the tank at night as they almost never venture out in the day. They may eat smaller fish.
BICHIRS: big, messy, spiky, predatory. Not a great mix with others, IMO. If the O tries to eat them, he can get hurt. Bichirs don't always get along with each other. They can get 2 feet long, and have a bioload almost as big as the Oscar. They may eat smaller fish.
LEPORINUS: big, fin-nipper. This is a foot-ling fish. It nips fins. However, i could see a tank with just 2 Oscars and a Leporinus.
PLECO: size. They can be huge, and have a massive bioload, or too small to be in the tank. There isn't that many that are of appropriate size in that tank. They all have large bioloads.
Your 30 gallon grow-out can hold these fish when they are about 2 inches and then they will be too big.
Sent from my iPod touch using Aquarium Advice
Polypterus senegalus reach max sizes of 8-12 inches depending on tank size. Yes species do reach that size, the majority do not. Only three that I know of off hand teach that (P. endlicheri endlicheri, P. endlicheri conginicus, and P. Ansorgii and P. ornatipinnis).
Their bio load IS NOT as big as an oscars. Very little is bigger than theirs actually.
And yes they're Carnivores but again P. senegalus are generally very peaceful and only eat very small fish. Even a full grown Senegal would have a crapload of trouble eating an Oscar at its smallest size, silver dollars at their smallest size and plecos. In that stock I can virtually guarantee that a Senegal wouldn't eat anything is his chosen stock.
Now onto the plecos...there's hundreds if not thousands of pleco species out there, and yes there are plenty that can happily co-exist in that stock. Green Phantoms would be my first choice with that stock but again there's tons of them out there. There are certainly more to choose from. And you are indeed correct on their bioload. Pretty much every single one of those dudes are poop machines and can pretty easily make or break a bioload on a tank.
Ok. A few points to make.
I said that they have *almost* the amount of bioload as an O. They are messy.
Bichirs in general can eat anything the can catch. A young O with a large Bichir is food. If i can catch it, it can kill it. And then rip it up, and eat it. Ive seen it happen.
I know that Senegals are small, but he didn't say Senegals he just said Bichirs. So i was making a generalization.
However, i cannot disagree with the Pleco statement as i don't know much about the different types.
Sent from my iPod touch using Aquarium Advice
The op did say he likes albino senegals which is why I said that.
Sent from my iPhone using Aquarium Advice
And btw, 75 is a minimum for ONE unless you have waaayyyyy over the top filtration on the tank, like 1400 gallons per hour.
This is your opinion, not outright fact. I'm not opening into the dreaded Oscar tank size discussion on the ops thread but you can't equivocally state 75 is the minimum.
IN MY OPINION
A 55 is fine. With good filtration and attention to water quality a pair IMO is just fine in a 75. I have no problems with two in a 125. This is my opinion but I'm not asserting it as fact. Only my 2¢.
I have a striped Raphael, and a Senegalus bichir. Neither are very fast growers. Raph's are boring, I've seen mine 3 times in 5 months.
Jesse