i agree... gups are easy, but if you want the babies to survive you need lots of places for them to hide, like plants, real or fake... i had 5 feeder gups, 2 males, and got 8 more 2 days ago. of the 6 i put in the tank, 1 has already dropped... it was by chance that i got all pregnent females, but the fact that 1 dropped after a day in there, and that 2 babies survived the 10 ither gups and the angelfish gives me some confidence. they are in their own floating container in the tank now, safe from harm... im also gonna get a self cloning cray to breed for food for my 10 inch Oscar, and i breed snails for her. these are things u could look into also. good luck!