Well I ha a great experience today. Went to the same lfs and first thing I see is that old man talking to someone. I snook past him to find te girl that was at the counter at the night. She didnt recognize me so we started talking and she tested the water and ammonia was 0 nitrites ad trates were high. But I was really happy for her to say "fish less cycling can take just as long as the fish in, but the ammonia your using I'd the best" so she knows that fish less works. And she does that way in her tanks! So I bought kh stuff cuz mine is 1 and it needs to be up. So I also bought an Anubis something, forgot the name I'll post a pic later. Ram this stock plan buy her 4 Julli Cory's 12 rumynose tetras 1 anglefish 2 German blue rams 1 bn(taminiki) pleco And she said sounds awesome, I'd add the Cory's, then the rumynose, then the angle, then pleco, then rams. Sounds great. She was so nice and knowledgable and even said "looks like you know what your doing" so I think I'm l the right track. Then my mom mentioned that nigh and the guy and the worker said " oh that was you... We had an employe meating about that, and made sure that guys on the right track. She also said she didn't think Id be back! But all ends well!!! I plan in getting a crypt next time in there, and Mabye even fish! So how long do y'all thin till my trites fall?