Karay
Aquarium Advice FINatic
I pull mine as soon as I'm sure they are done
So my moving plans have been delayed and I think I have one more shot at raising a successful batch. In my last attempt I had moved my wigglers to my 20 gallon tank and was feeding them first bites which they took well too. Unfortunately by the end of their first week of free swimming I had lost them all! I was trying to feed them 3x a day but it got away from me with my work schedule... That and my sponge filter wasn't fully cycled. Fortunately now I have cycled media and a slower work schedule.
My angels just spawned on slate again and this time I decided to move it before the eggs get a chance to hatch. I filled a 5 gallon bucket with water from their main tank (I had done a big water change right before the spawn) and put in a heater and air stone for water movement. My question is how long should I wait until I move them to the 20 gallon... And should I be doing water changes before they are free swimming?
After I pulled the slates and moved them into a 10 gal. tank with water that they were spawned in, I didn;t do any changes to anything until after they began feeding on food. In the process of hatching and absorbing their yolk sac, the fry are not really producing enough of anything that would be deteriorating the water quality so there is no need to change it. Once they are feeding, that all changes and water changes are a must to keep the tank clean of uneaten foods.
As for when to move them into the other tank?, Eggs travel better than hatched fry so the sooner the better
Hope that helps
Didn't want to say anything yet until I was certain these two would pair up. I knew one was a female but we were uncertain whether the other one was male. The day I dropped of some of my koi angels to the pet store there was four silver and a blue angel. A pair that actually just spawned in their tank the day before. I spent the week debating to pick them up. After deciding to go and buy them I arrived to find the male wasn't in there so I asked the store owner if he sold him. Man was he very upset. One of his staff sold the male before he had a chance to tell them they were a pair. Now the blue and a silver also had paired up and the blue was picking on the last silver so we figured it was a male. I bought the two hoping one was male and hoping they would pair up. Well they did! I love them. Right now because if spawning I think their colours are really standing out. Even the red in their eyes.
LUCKY STIFF!!!!!! They look really nice.
Fair warning, I've already started contacting places for fish to bring home in May (My old buddy just told me I was crazy to get back into this lol. )
Thank you. I was hoping had chosen well. The amount of eggs they laid puts my koi angels to shame and I have those coming out if my ears. It took awhile to coax them from out of the back of the tank. I ended having to put gravel down and that did the trick. Like you said earlier in this thread you have to try multiple things with angels to get things to work.
How extensive are you planning on getting into it? 300 pairs again lol
I haven't actually tried to count but based on my sale of 50 and seeing the percentage that was I speculate the first spawn was 350-400. Each spawn had gotten bigger with the latest I believe is maybe 550. Is there an efficient way to count them?
I go by number of fish sold. If they spawn 1000 eggs but continually only have 200 that can sell, I figure the 200 not the 1000
If that's the case, the others are probably not salable so they would be culls. That's not a good ratio in my book.What do you do with the other 800?
as soon as mine are large enough to eat shrimp - blood worms -and other good enhancing foods they get fed sometime up to 4 times a day . the orange and blues in mine are very brilliant witch is something we don't see much of over here. some people argue with me about it helping with the black stripes and black in the koi but i believe thats why the black is so bright and compleet stripes also. please correct me if im wrong
Bob: What I was trying to bring out was that at higher temps, sometimes the fish's body grows faster than "mechanics" of the fish. At lower temps, they seem to grow together. I can't explain it, just an observation from the past.
Before the freeze here in FL about 3 years ago, you couldn't go to any Angel farmer's pond and not see good quality Silvers with complete stripes and good shape. After the freeze, most of the farmers here lost not only their pond stocks but also their breeding stocks. It's just been a "nightmare" ( according to my wholesaler friend) to find any good Angels here since then. Hence my desire to bring back stock from other indoor breeders from up North
Ontario Canada is North. You're more than welcome here!