Mojo, you go out of your way to say pretty strong statements like "limitations", "downfalls", "fact", etc. Thus, the burden of this proof also falls upon you.
Ohhh Ok, lol. I didnt really think those 3 words were Strong statements. But I would say that this one is
I don't mind any kind of debate, as there is no "limitation" or "anything they do not do" and I am quite confident in that.
OK reading down your reply and skipping past your experiment requirements for the moment. You talk about asking for detailed proof of what killed Dr. rons tank. Rons reasoning was the build up of toxins and heavy metals in the sand and Lr over the years. This is what propted his salt and urchin testing. I am not going to spend hours searching RC, but you could just ask him if you wanted.
You then talked about the history of DSB and how they have not been around that long in comparison to other systems. Well they have actually been around for a long long time to. The most modred version was done by univercities and labratories. They could not keep the animals that they wanted to study alive long enough to study them. The NOAA cut them off collection unless they used some sand with bacteria and a few small peices of live rock. This sand and LR kept the critter alive long enough to study the critters. Now you know why Ron and others jumped all over it as a comercial enterprise.
Ok you make the statement
You make it clear yourself that blame often falls on failure for unfair reasons, yet DSB's are the only one in your mind that deserve these assumptions....at least that's how it appears
I am not sure where you got that from but that wasnt what I said. For me DSB's are far from the only thing that deserves these assumptions. With when I here statements like they have no limitations and that their is nothing they cant do, I kinda have to call BS on that.
TO understand the Biology of what goes on thier, you have to have a grasp of Marine Biology and I dont think I am a very good teacher. YOur outline of testing from what I read is that you want to see a study on someones (ie Hobbists) over a long period of time. Well that will never happen. The studies I was refering to were studies done in the wild and in controlled lab experiments. Dealing with things from nutrient cycling, phosphurious cycling, Nutrient enrichment in Sand beds, remineralization and so on.
But anyway here are a few to start.
"Dissolution of Calcite in deep-sea sediments: pH and O2 microelectrode results", Archer, David, et. al.. Geochemica et Cosmochemica Acta Vol 53, pp. 2831-2845 Aug 9, 1989.
"Equatorial Pacific Calcite Preservation Cycles: Production or Dissolution?" Archer, D. E., Paleoceanography, Vol 6, NO 5, pp.561-571, Aug, 1991.
"Distribution of Carbonate in Surface Sediments of the Pacific Ocean," Berger, W.H., Adelseck, C.G., Mayer, L.A., Journal of Geophysical Research, Vol 81, NO 15, pp. 2617-2627, May 20, 1976.
"Effect of Pressure on Carbonic Acid, Boric Acid, and the pH in Seawater," Culbertson, C., and Pytkowicz, RM, Limnology and Oceanography, Vol 13, NO 3, pp 403-417, July, 1968.
"Calcium Carbonater Preservation in the Ocean", Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society of London, Series A, Mathematical and Physical Sciences, Vol 331, Issue 1616, The Deep Sea Bed: Its Physics, Chemistry, and Biology (Jun 19, 1990), pp. 29-40.
"Carbon Fluxes at the Sediment-Water Interface of the Deep-Sea: Calcium Carbonate Preservation," Emerson, Steven, and Bender, Michael, Journal of Marine Research, Vol 39, NO1, 1981.
"Respiration and dissolution in the sediments of the western North Atlantic: Estimates From Models of in situ Microelectrode Measurements of Porewater Oxygen an pH," Hales, B., Emerson, S., and Archer, David, Deep-Sea Research, Vol 41, NO 4, pp. 695-719, 1994.
"Dissolution of Calcite in the Deep Sea: Theoretical Prediction for the Case of Uniform Size Particles Settling Into a Well-Mixed Sediment," Keir, Robin, American Journal of Science, Vol 282, pp 193-236, March 1982.
Chemical Fluxes From a Sediment Trap Experiment in the Sargasso Sea," Spencer, DW, BRewer, PG, Fleer, A, Honjo, S.et.al., Journal of Marine Research, Vol 36, NO 1 (?), pp 493-523, 1978.