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bud29 said:
I have heard that pacus need 500 gallons.......

I heard 300. They really don't get that big compared to other fish like RTC, Arowanas, some Gars and others.
 
GodFan said:

Anything larger? I could do I.D. Sharks again but they don't really feel like a catfish more like a normal fish as they are rarely laying on the bottom.
 
vanimal said:
Anything larger? I could do I.D. Sharks again but they don't really feel like a catfish more like a normal fish as they are rarely laying on the bottom.

Anything for a mid level swimmer besides Arowana and Oscar?
 
vanimal said:
Anything larger? I could do I.D. Sharks again but they don't really feel like a catfish more like a normal fish as they are rarely laying on the bottom.

ID sharks get HUGE! big no no
 
vanimal said:
Anything for a mid level swimmer besides Arowana and Oscar?

You don't want too much bottom activity with an Arowana as they may develop drop eye from what I've read
 
emerald76 said:
ID sharks get HUGE! big no no

I currently have 2 I have had them for about 5 months and they are 5 and 3 inches. They grow very slowly and usually don't get more than 17 or so inches in captivity.
 
Is there anything bigger than an Eclipse Catfish that would be cool??
 
Realistically, a 220 is too small for an arowana. Even in captivity they'll reach 30"-36", a 220 is only 72" long and 24" wide. Many times, they end up swimming in circles in one direction only, thus developing fin and spinal defomities.

A buddy of mine runs a cold-blooded animal rescue, herps and fish. He has several pacu in a 1200 gallon pond. The red bellies are all pushing 30" long, the black is larger still. One jumped out last year during a thunderstorm when he wasn't home; it weighed 33 pounds. They are also deep-bodied fish. Prepare to rehome eventually if ya decide to get one.

My general rule of thumb is nothing over 20" in my 225. This includes aros, pacu, red tails, TSNs, ID sharks, FW rays and most of the "tankbuster" catfish, but in the long run it's more important to have healthy fish that have not suffered from being confined in too small of an aquarium than to have "status" fish that really are less than prime.

WYite
 
Wyomingite said:
Realistically, a 220 is too small for an arowana. Even in captivity they'll reach 30"-36", a 220 is only 72" long and 24" wide. Many times, they end up swimming in circles in one direction only, thus developing fin and spinal defomities.

A buddy of mine runs a cold-blooded animal rescue, herps and fish. He has several pacu in a 1200 gallon pond. The red bellies are all pushing 30" long, the black is larger still. One jumped out last year during a thunderstorm when he wasn't home; it weighed 33 pounds. They are also deep-bodied fish. Prepare to rehome eventually if ya decide to get one.

My general rule of thumb is nothing over 20" in my 225. This includes aros, pacu, red tails, TSNs, ID sharks, FW rays and most of the "tankbuster" catfish, but in the long run it's more important to have healthy fish that have not suffered from being confined in too small of an aquarium than to have "status" fish that really are less than prime.

WYite

I guess I could do Oscars but aren't some tanks wider than others?
 
I guess I could do Oscars but aren't some tanks wider than others?

Dude! Not tryin' to bring ya down!

Assumin' it's a standard 220, then it's the same footprint as a 180, only a few inches taller. I don't think that tanks get wider until ya go to the 300 gallon tank (8' x 3' footprint).

No, ya don't hafta do oscars. Once ya get this tank goin' yer gonna have all kinds of fish ya see that yer gonna wanna try. It'll open up a lotta possibilities. I'm just sayin' ya wanna think through what ya get. It's easy to pick up another 20 gallon tank or another 55, but between room and cost it's not so easy to get a second 220. Do yer homework and plan out what ya really want, that is appropriate to the tank.

For example, instead of a pacu, look at different types of silver dollars. The redhook metynnis looks similiar to a mini pacu and only gets 6". Ya could do a small school. Think there are other silver dollars that get even a bit larger. Instead of an ID shark, look for one of the driftwood catfish, such as Auchenipterus nuchalis, sometimes sold as the moustache cat. They're a dead ringer for ID sharks and only get 8" or so IIRC. The jaguar catfish (Liosomodoras oncinus) gets 'bout 10" long. 'Bout the coolest lookin' catfish around IMO. Four line pictus get 10"-12" TL. Lotta other catfish in that range. There are some cool plecos, as well. There are a large variety of 12" to 15" cichlids that ya could put in there other than oscars, and quite a few will do okay in a tank with similar-sized fish. The banded leporinus gets 'bout a foot. That's the first "oddball" fish that comes to mind, but there are others. Ya could do a fahaka, but that would be 'bout the only fish ya could put in due to aggression. But if yer lookin' for a single pet, that may be the way to go for ya, as would some of the larger, more aggressive cichlids.

All I'm sayin' is be careful what ya get and don't get in a hurry. If ya go and get the first big fish ya come across, ya could end up wishin' ya waited when ya see somethin' else that catches yer eye. Ya could find yerself with a fish that ya find ya really don't have the space to take care of. A 220 really isn't that big once ya start stockin' it and ya see another fish. Take yer time, plan what ya want, and think outside the box 'bout the fish ya could have. There are hundreds of possibilities. Trust me, in the long run you'll enjoy this tank a lot more.

WYite
 
Oh I forgot about banded leporinus!!!!! They are the coolest fish EVER! Very active, very curious, and very very pretty!
 
+1 to the fahaka...look up videos of them it's awesome to watch them eat live stuff
 
Hey guys I went and looked at the tank today and it was a good price but the tank was absolutely covered in scratches from someone carelessly cleaning the glass. I passed on it but will keep looking!
 
Keep looking, Vanimal! I don't know if anyone's mentioned these, but I like Lemon Fin Barbs and Apollo sharks. If you get a decent sized tank they're both pretty.

As for catfish, try Eclipse Catfish or 4-Lined Pimelodus. If you want something really active, Asian Upside Down catfish or Black Mystus Catfish are neat.
 

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