Betta and guppy problem

[GodFan]

How big should I go (gallons) to accommodate my 7 guppys and 4 Cory's and a betta

I would suggest at least 20 gallons. 30 would be better.

 

[Shane l]

That's 77 litres that's gonna cost a lot

 

[Shane l]

What about 13 is that ok

 

[CatmanDru]

If he does alot of water changes I think they will be ok. I understand wanting to keep them and it is entirely possible.

Even with 7 guppys, 4 Cory catfish and a betta in a 7.8 gallon that isn't cycled?

Maybe for a while if he does 50% partial water changes daily, but only as a temporary solution?

I mean, I'm no fish expert, I only have a betta in a ten gallon, ha ha and I deliberately played it very safe. But I've read a lot of "unhealthy fish" threads that are very similar to this one and they read like horror stories with fish dying one after another. I'm already getting traumatic flashbacks, lol.

 

[Shane l]

My mom won't let me get a bigger tank than 7 gallons the 1 I have now

 

[Shane l]

What of it was cycled would it be fine

 

[CatmanDru]

Also shane, did you say you had the betta in a tank for 4 months?

if so, save the tank with the gravel, decorations, filter and filter media or filter cartridge -- and keep them wet. They will be a source for introducing beneficial bacteria (bb) into your new tank. The beneficial bacteria will grow in your new tank and will process the ammonia, and nitrites into less toxic nitrates.

 

[Shane l]

Already done this can u tell me if the tank was cycled fully would they be happy?

 

[Shane l]

To add every one seems really happy what would be the signs that I over stocked

 

[GodFan]

Even with 7 guppys, 4 Cory catfish and a betta in a 7.8 gallon that isn't cycled?

Maybe for a while if he does 50% partial water changes daily, but only as a temporary solution?

I mean, I'm no fish expert, I only have a betta in a ten gallon, ha ha and I deliberately played it very safe. But I've read a lot of "unhealthy fish" threads that are very similar to this one and they read like horror stories with fish dying one after another. I'm already getting traumatic flashbacks, lol.

oh only temperarily! Im sorry I thought you knew.

 

[Shane l]

Ok so a 20 gallon roughly how much would that cost

 

[CatmanDru]

Already done this can u tell me if the tank was cycled fully would they be happy?

So are alll the gravel, decorations, old betta filter and old "dirty" betta filter media/cartridge now in the new tank?

If so, then that will dramatically help to cycle the tank.

But even then the tank can only be a temporary home until you get a larger tank.

Maybe buy a used tank to save a lot of money.

 

[Shane l]

Here is what il do tomorrow I wil get the test kit then do my best to keep them all alive with 50% water changes twice daily I will the trade in my 3 gallon old tank and get a 20 gallon I will then put every thing from this tank in there includeing the water and then start agin

 

[Shane l]

So are alll the gravel, decorations, old betta filter and old "dirty" betta filter media/cartridge now in the new tank?

Yes they are

 

[CatmanDru]

Yes they are

Oh good. That will protect the fish from becoming poisoned by the toxins the fish produce.

 

[Shane l]

And a 50% water change 2 times daily ?

 

[CatmanDru]

Here is what il do tomorrow I wil get the test kit then do my best to keep them all alive with 50% water changes twice daily I will the trade in my 3 gallon old tank and get a 20 gallon I will then put every thing from this tank in there includeing the water and then start agin

I think that is a good plan for both your fish and you

 

[Shane l]

Yay. Finally

 

[CatmanDru]

And a 50% water change 2 times daily ?

I think that would be a good idea. Other people might have a better answer.

When you get your liquid API Master Test Kit you can use the test results to decide when and how much water to change.

 

[Shane l]

Will do. I can believe how bad the shop people now about their fish